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brown_bear   
Member since: Nov 06
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Location: Somewhere in dreamland

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 07:09:37

The 'Zionist plot' to build a mosque

Some of the believers in Arabia say the mosque is a conspiracy hatched by the Jews to set out a clear and permanent connection between Sept. 11 and Islam, a constant reminder of an attack on America led by devout Muslims. Dr. Abd al-Muti Bayumi, a prominent fellow of the Islamic Research Academy of Al Azhar, sometimes regarded as "the Vatican of Sunni Islam," says the construction of a mosque anywhere near ground zero is the child of a "devious mentality" to connect the dots of Sept. 11 and Islam, to stoke memories of barbarism in the name of Islam.

Another Arab notable, Dr. Amna Nazir, a professor of doctrine and philosophy at Al Azhar, calls "building a mosque on this rubble indicates bad intention — even if we wished to shut our eyes, close our minds and insist on good will." These are not the empty sentiments of good will and sensitivity so beloved of the girly men of the West. Rather, they are statements of concern that "Zionist conspiracy" aid in construction of the ground zero mosque will ultimately damage Islam. Dr. Bayumi, for one, preaches suicidal jihad to demonstrate that his heart is in the wrong place: "I say in all honesty that we recruit the people of Islam, and instill in them the spirit of the true jihad, which is death for the sake of Allah, for the sake of our faith."


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/23/pruden-the-zionist-plot-to-build-a-mosque/



Fido   
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Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 11:03:22

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

What about Gurudwaras ??? Do you know that they demolished a couple of them ??

What bat Buddhist temples .....

So per you / or your God , idol worshipers should not be co existed with or tolerated ??

Dude , which ever way you look at it .... you will come to intolerance in your religion ...........

Yes all Muslims are not terrorists but why is it that 95% of the terrorist activities are Muslim involved ??? Clearly there s a co relation !!





You chose not to answer this .....

Is that because you don't have any answers ??

There are lots and lots of qs in Islam for which you don't have any answers ........ Inequality b/w men and women is another big one ............

Do you agree a women is given half the status of a man in the Quran ???? Where two mens witness is needed , if only one man is present , then let there be 2 more women for if one forgets , the other one can remind her ......

The world needs to speak up against Islamist hypocrisy and thats what they are doing by voicing concerns against a mosque at the 911 site .............


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sguk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 12:57:24

Its not about Wikipedia or Fox News tells us. Their are no churches in Saudi Arabia.

The one is Qatar, when it can't display the Cross outside and it has restrictions in who can be allowed to worship. For example, native local people are not allowed. It is a sign of dhimmitude

What we want to freedom for all religions ( Bahá'í , Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism). The way ROP is allowed elsewhere.

So too the same rights in ROP countries.

Saudi Arabia needs to lead. Show tolerance.

This is Obama need to speak in Cairo. In fact, the debate whether to choose Indonesia , Turkey or Egypt.

Liberals again, twisted the truth.

Saudi Arabia was the destination. The message is loud and clear. Show tolerance.




Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

What about Gurudwaras ??? Do you know that they demolished a couple of them ??

What bat Buddhist temples .....

So per you / or your God , idol worshipers should not be co existed with or tolerated ??

Dude , which ever way you look at it .... you will come to intolerance in your religion ...........

Yes all Muslims are not terrorists but why is it that 95% of the terrorist activities are Muslim involved ??? Clearly there s a co relation !!





You chose not to answer this .....

Is that because you don't have any answers ??

There are lots and lots of qs in Islam for which you don't have any answers ........ Inequality b/w men and women is another big one ............

Do you agree a women is given half the status of a man in the Quran ???? Where two mens witness is needed , if only one man is present , then let there be 2 more women for if one forgets , the other one can remind her ......

The world needs to speak up against Islamist hypocrisy and thats what they are doing by voicing concerns against a mosque at the 911 site .............




Earth Rocker   
Member since: May 08
Posts: 21
Location: AB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 18:30:10

all your questions are answered here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0qxtjahdLs - short answer

http://www.halaltube.com/terrorism-and-jihad - longer answer



Earth Rocker   
Member since: May 08
Posts: 21
Location: AB

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 18:40:59

Quote:
Originally posted by sguk

Their are no churches in Saudi Arabia.





On what basis are you making the above statement? Have you ever been to KSA?

I gave you locations of 3 churches in Saudi Arabia in my post yesterday. Please check this with your Christian friends who live in these places: Ras Tanura, Dhahran and Al-Khobar.

Idol worship is not permitted by God/Ishwar/Rabb/Parmatma. The churches in Doha do not display cross as it is against the local custom/law. Have you ever seen a "swastik" (a Hindu symbol commonly seen in India) displayed anywhere in Canada? Why?



sguk   
Member since: Mar 09
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-08-10 19:21:33

You prove my point. Zakir Naik is the other front of intolerance. We have violent jihad and the stealth jihad.

All religions are equal. This is what make the rest of the world great.

When you claim non ROP religions are not allowed (crosses, idols etc) - that's the point that we have been making - it is this intolerance of others beliefs, values, religions etc that is the heart of this issue.

And the liberals will not dare to stand up. For all that big speech Obama claimed to make in Cairo (or the one he made in White house the other day, about the constitutional rights);

it will not change a dime; its time to make quid Quid pro quo




see this article (Excerpt)



Zakir Naik is a citizen and resident of India, and it is from there, as a preacher, propagandist, and polemicist, that he has made his name as the most widely-known Muslim apologist not only on the subcontinent, or in Asia, but in the entire world. The Iranian apostate Ali Sina has dissected Zakir Naik's meretriciousnes. You can see him at work in many YouTube postings, where he is always shown "defeating" someone - a Hindu, or a doubting Muslim, or even an apostate - and then these people somehow miraculously concede the unrebuttable rightness of "Dr." Zakir Naik, and not infrequently, a conversion to Islam takes place practically right on the spot. This should remind Westerners of the elmer-gantries who have the blind suddenly see and the halt suddenly throw away their crutches; it isn't just magicians who have their collaborators scattered throughout their audiences, ready to be "randomly" called on. That's Zakir Naik.





rajvikas   
Member since: Aug 10
Posts: 20
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 05:26:39

I Agree with Earth rocker, i have been working in Saudi for 10 years

There are few churches in the eastern province but there is no Mandir

most of my christian friends visit the churches on Friday as friday is the week Off here




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