Is it better to go back


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newincanada   
Member since: Feb 09
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-09 16:46:52

I have only one golden phrase to say here

ALL THAT WE ARE TODAY IS THE RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE THOUGHT


Think positive, believe in your wishes, (yes thats very very important) and work towards what you strongly wish for, your wishes will start becoming true.

Good luck

newincanada
PEACE ALWAYS



michelle288   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 319
Location: toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-09 20:17:27

Quote:
Originally posted by vivek901

Iam sorry but I dont understand being what benefits I will get if Iam a citizen of canada?Visa exemption for few countries thats it.Finally if I feel this is not a place where i want to comeback whats the use and in addition to that i would be putting in 5 years.Its a quite a long time.i have seen many people who cannot go back home because they have lost the ground there in these 5 yrs.People say its good for KIDS...iam just single..why should i sacrifice my life just for the sake KIDS life is going to better..and i dont believe that also that KIDS have better life here,half of the kids dont do even bachelor's degree here and even if they do diploma they take thier own time because even without education they earn 11$ per hr and they r happy with that.In india without education ur gone so atleast for the fear of that kids do education, because of competition they do education.I feel Canada or any other western country is worst for KIDS.Regarding moving to Middle east...why would I go to middle east...??i mean why ppl allways think outside india?Why western passport..by doing these things we ourselves are degrading us...we are degrading the INDIAN PASSPORT..and this is the reason ppl in west/middleeast try to exploit...why not be king in your own jungle rather than be a mouse in some body else's jungle




Reading your post it does seem that you seem to prefer to live in India. Maybe too soon to think abt children..Canada may be better for your wife. If you feel life is kind to women in India think again. There is always the risk of leaving the house on your own after the dark, misbehavior in crowded places or even non crowded places ( ppl may not tell you but this is a daily occurence), possible biases in theworkplace. The sense of security here is far more for women. Also, I dont think I would like to go back to waiting 3-4 hours in a traffic jam to visit family and friends.


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-09 22:51:13

Hi, This is my view. I (from experience in Canada for the past 7 years) feel this way. I am giving it in points.

1. The more time you stay, the less the liklihood of you going back (though you may want to, it would be impossible as time goes by as you loose all your confidence, money, sense of security, have more family burdens etc...).

2. It is very hard in Canada to see free money (unless by CCTB, Univ. Childcare, GST/PST Credit). Having been unemployed and on EI for 6 months now, I have tried all avenues to get some solid spending money from the govt. The result is zero , Nada, Zip. No wonder they say "Cash is King" here.
Only thing they offer is unlimited free resume checking, free seminars on networking, getting jobs etc... They also offer 1 hour free internet, 20 pages free photocopy , 30 pages free printing and free local phone for job calls.

3. Food banks dispense uncooked food for immigrants. Non Visible people get more food than visible minorities.

4. The best professions are IT and Finance. 95% of other professions are just garbage. Donot belive if anyone says to the contrary.

5. The economy is in a very bad shape. The earliest that you may get a job in your line is After the summer of 2010. These days it is even very hard to get $10 per hour labour jobs outside the GTA.

6. It is a struggle for most people here. after paying for your car, gas, food, rent, cloths etc.. you generally would not have any money to spend. Going to India for vacation and back costs $1600 + for one person. Gifts and other expenses are extra.

7. Canada needs immigrants for works that locals would not do. So they go to any extent to persuade you to stay and spend your tax dollars here

Hope this helps.
All the best.
Peace by TK


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new york   
Member since: Aug 07
Posts: 299
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-09 23:05:35

Vivek i think you are alone and feel homesick. Try to find some new friends, read some books, try to join the gym and u will see life is not boring overhere.



JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-09 23:22:22



Quote:
Originally posted by new york

Vivek i think you are alone and feel homesick. Try to find some new friends, read some books, try to join the gym and u will see life is not boring overhere.




I felt the same even with a decent job while living in US (even after 4-5 years of living there).


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ILOVENA   
Member since: Jan 09
Posts: 295
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-09 03:18:49

Soon it will be 10 years since I came here. Life here has had it's challenges (I'd rather use this word, than "problem";). During these years, I have seen numerous messages on this forum, dealing with "going back". Frankly, I am not surprised. However, I would like to commend the OP not going the path of abuses and brickbats to express his frustration.

The old cliche goes that "there are 2 sides to a coin". I have seen many who have had the same dilemma, went back and returned here for what they believed was the quality of life. Before long I will have my detractors who will question my point of view, but that's OK. Dissent is fun!

Frankly, there are no easy answers, and I am assuming the OP is still in Canada. First of all, you must do an assessment of YOUR priorities. Not one wee bit of what we write here, will matter. Each one has his unique situation, and while some use their head, some use their heart, when it comes to life impacting decisions. Weigh your options, in the light of your age, your expectations, your family (and the kind of support you might get), and most importantly, what your short and long term goals are.

If you decide to stay here, you can always go back anytime...... even though some may say that, sometimes it might be too late to return. On the other hand, if you decide to go back, you might lose your status here (then again, whether this will impact you, will depend on how lady luck treats you when you go back). Whatever your decision and circumstances, do not beat yourself, if were not right.

No one can predict the future. We base our decisions, on our understanding of what might come.We do things in right faith, and while most of the time it may be right, you might end doing the wrong thing too, No matter what, you must take it in a stride and go on with life.

Good luck in your endeavor.



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-09 08:39:40

Quote:
Originally posted by michelle288
Reading your post it does seem that you seem to prefer to live in India. Maybe too soon to think abt children..Canada may be better for your wife. If you feel life is kind to women in India think again. There is always the risk of leaving the house on your own after the dark, misbehavior in crowded places or even non crowded places ( ppl may not tell you but this is a daily occurence), possible biases in theworkplace. The sense of security here is far more for women. Also, I dont think I would like to go back to waiting 3-4 hours in a traffic jam to visit family and friends.



Plus there are other factors below which need to be considered as well ...

Corruption at virtually every place ... ever heard of getting raped and having to bribe the police just to register a complaint ........... You dial the police here and let me know if they don't come to your door step shortly .....

Traffic sense .............. I count this as worse than corruption ......... countless people die on roads because of this -- lives which could have been saved easily .

Crime ... Just compare the common crime percentage - be it pick pocketing / mugging , murders ... not to mention eve teasing ...

Pollution ............ I am sure you have already experienced the difference ..

Better values --- lightning struck 3 in a Brampton park 2 days back and residents in the area rushed and provided CPR ........... Recall the case of the girl who was thrown out of a train to resist eve teasing .... 10 yrs back ....... and she kept lying there besides the track for hours .....

You cannot bribe here to set your meter / parking tickets off ...... try offering the bus driver $1/- in stead of $2.75 .... values mean a lot .

Power water and other utilities are available when you need them ....

Adulteration ............ did you hear about artificial milk in India ?

Ever heard of the Indian Govt supporting some one if they did not have income to support themselves ......... here it is done and I ve seen such people maintaining cars and apartments .....

Have you checked the difference in infrastructures ?

I could go on and on but these are points that one needs to consider while comparing Canada and India ...

and BTW Cdn_Dude (not being personal ) , these points are available to everyone regardless of their income .


At times I find it ridiculous to compare a place you have been in for 25-30 yrs with a place where you have been for less then an year ............ if some one was to go to Nunavut and return after a week , he would carry the impression that Canada is 'Nunavut ' ...

4 yrs out of 70 thats almost 5% .... a small cost for having the permanent option of changing yours and your family's environment at will ..... no one is forcing you to stay here after that ....... you can always go back and re start ....

At the same time I m not saying that Canada is surely better as that's best determined by your priorities as per previous posts so decide accordingly ... But do not decide in haste and weigh in all the pros and conses .....


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