Study method to get over 90% in High Schools


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chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-01-10 11:47:36

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Originally posted by mississauga2

Hello everyone,

My son is in grade 9 High school in Mississauga and has been getting on an average of 80- 85% for last 3-5 years in all subjects. Inspite of submitting his assignments etc on time, getting over 80 in tests, his percentage somehow doesn't go beyond 85.

Since he plans to go for Computer Science after 12th , we, as parents, feel that he needs to get in the study habit to get atleast 90% to secure admission in good Universities.

Can anyone who has been achieving over 90% in high school (or their parents) can advise us, what else he needs to do and what should his study pattern be regularly?

Will appreciate any suggestions from the experienced! Thanks.

Worried parent :(



Simple advice from a parent whose children have scored 90% and doing well:

1. Make sure that it is your child and not you who want him to get into computer science. If it is you, as someone has already commented, you need to watch 3 idiots and change your views.

2. If your child wants to pursue computer science, does he want to do it from a particular university only or is he interested in the subject and does not mind doing it from any university depending on your finacial status and living plans? Perhaps he is interested in the subject and would do well in life even if he does not do it from the university you choose for him but from some other university.

3. If he is very keen both on the subject and a particular university, I would say he is quite a mature guy considering he is in grade 9 only. Most children at that age do not even know what they are interested in - let alone ready to make a choice (all they know is what they do not like - and most of the professions you ask them, they will reply in the negative).

If he is that mature to have decided both the subject and the university (with good enough reasons though - not something as frivolous as UofT being in downtown and therefore more fun, and computers are fun and you can create new games if you do computer science), I am sure he would know what the requirements for that course/university are. I would say you are a very lucky parent then.

That said, all you need to do is to sit down with him and discuss in a man to man fashion, what he thinks his game plan should be to achieve his dream/goal and how you as a parent can help him. It should be HE who is worried about dreaming and planning to achieve his dream, rather than you being worried.

And if the fact is that either he is not particular on a university or a special course, he is telling you this only to satisfy your inquisitive and worrysome needs - it seems that as a typical Indian parent, you are unnecessarily worried about your child's studies.

In our case, we as parents have always helped and advised our children in taking decisions about theire studies, never ever put them in thinking for pursuing a particular subject/profession or a university. My son has just finished his undergrad and daughter is in university doing very well in all respects - and all these 15 years or so, we have not even asked them to prepare for exams (many a times we have not even know that they had their exams/test). Yes, we are lucky, but we have also been understanding.


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gktaurus   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-10 16:19:42

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Originally posted by Vandematram

Practical and Realistic Advice from the battle ground.

We had the problem and we did an analysis of all the kids who were doing well versus ours.

This is applicable to Mississauga and surroundings only.

Our kid was in the same boat but was having a Indian Hindu name. If it is a name from any other religion than the Christian name it would be difficult to start with and then comes the skin color.

If you think that the Desi teachers born and brought up here would be more favorable then BOY YOU ARE WRONG!. They are worser than the whites.

The best possible solution(check with your kid and please post his response here if I'm wrong) is to KISS UP TO THE TEACHER.Ask your kid how the girls do better than the boys and why girls are always near to the teacher post lecture making small chit chats, while boys stay away in the back.It is well known how certain kids compliment the teacher on their dress, hair , some on the pet peeves of the teacher(one teacher in Mississauga loves Simpsons and he is always inundated with simpson info before and after class).

After every class he should rush to the teacher and say it was a good lecture and he couldnot understand certain concepts. Even if he knows he should do. He should compliment the teacher as many times as possible. He should always keep telling the teacher he/she was the best teacher he has had all these years.He should always go the teacher and keep telling them that he is trying so hard and he feels that he has not done well in the class, but he has high aspirations soo that he can push the 85 to 90's.

ALWAYS attend all the Parents Teachers meeting with professional attire and speak good english. Compliment the teacher and present your kids aspirations, your background and always request more attention from that teacher. The kid can also volunteer in the groups moderated by the teacher so that he can get closer to the teacher and where his efforts can be observed.

Unlike DESH here your teacher can make or break your kids career. For Eg: A 95% + can get a scholarship of 12,000 while a 80% + will get only 2000 bucks for 4 years.

Hence the best option is to KISS up to the teacher.

Please promise me that your kid will try this and give us a feedback to us in CD so that it will help others.



In simple words, you are suggesting the kid to be a big Chamcha. What happens next when the kid goes to work? Again same story, descrimination, no advance in job etc and follow the same to be a chamcha again to the boss?

This may work initially but even the teachers get sick of this after a while as they know what the kid is trying to do. Imagine the humiliation the kid goes through with the other kids / teachers etc. I thought you liked the movie 3 idiots.







mississauga2   
Member since: Nov 05
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-10 10:08:24

Chandresh,

Your advice does seem practical, but as parents who have completed their studies in India, we have to sometimes wonder what is the right 'technique' of studying HERE for success. (he himself has shown interest in pursuing the said career).

Good advice though ... thank you.



ILOVENA   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-01-10 11:08:47

Chandresh: I applaud you on your balanced & right approach to a child's education and career.

I had a family friend from India who has son training to be a commercial pilot. He would brag that this kid was obsessed about becoming a pilot even when he was 4! He said that his son would always choose to play with toy planes, and that was an indication of where his career lay. That was an exaggeration, and a load of BS. Fact was, the dad heard somewhere that there would be a great demand for commercial pilots in the next 5 years (and that meant a lot of $$$!).... and so the dad \\\"piloted\\\" the child to be a pilot!


I agree with you that it is the child's skills, ambition that should be a guiding factor to a career - not what the parents aspire them to become. Unfortunately, the need to be a doctor or an engineer is ingrained in our Indian psyche....... so much that it becomes very difficult for us to let our kids decide what might be right for them, based on their skills and inclination.

I disagree with one of the posters who seems to suggest that it is essential to keep the teachers happy, to get great marks. As much as it might be a personal choice, and it may not be wrong - why this obsession for marks in the 90's, and the need to be accepted at a \\\"premier university\\\" or \\\"reputed institute\\\"?. Let us face it - it's great to be accepted at Yale, Columbia or Harvard, but does that necessarily mean that those who graduate from other lesser known universities have inferior quality education? I don't think so.

My daughter will be in high school soon, but I will leave it to her to decide what she chooses as a career, and which school she wants to go to. Sure enough I will counsel her (if she wants it), but I won't be the last person to decide what she wants to do with her life - career wise.



mississauga2   
Member since: Nov 05
Posts: 57
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-01-10 12:33:09

As parents, we all like to see our children ( son or daughter) succeed. The best way is always good education first. There may be few who don't feel the need to or have the time to encourage kids to study to achieve their full potential in life.

Why settle for less or expect less efforts from our kids? Its getting them ready for real world experiences which starts in High School. We have to raise the bar and expect the best of THEIR ability. (certainly noone should tell the kids we dont have any expectations from you...that will be an insult to their capabilities and intelligence)

A parent's presence/guidance is always fruitful especially in an environment where there are lot of distractions around in a new migrated country. Thats the reason why immigrant children are aware of the rising global competition and choose to try harder in WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE, eventually doing better in their life.




chandresh   
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Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-01-10 15:23:07

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Originally posted by mississauga2

As parents, we all like to see our children ( son or daughter) succeed. The best way is always good education first. There may be few who don't feel the need to or have the time to encourage kids to study to achieve their full potential in life.

Why settle for less or expect less efforts from our kids? Its getting them ready for real world experiences which starts in High School.



1. Do you equate education to academics in school or something more than that? I think you are only focussed on school syllabus and not education per se. Would be good if you introspect what is it that you are trying to do - educate the child or force him to get better grades in school (even at the cost of not being educated)

2. Universitities, or 'reputed universities' are not the only source of being able to realize your full potential. In my view, good and reputed universities are good ONLY if you have made up your mind to take up a job after graduating - that means working for someone else. It is because the best employers take new and fresh employees from some universities which then get the title of reputed universities. This would also mean that you have a mindset that your son should only go for a job - never even think of being able to start on his own, follow his passion and turn it into his profession or business.

3. I think that it is you who is feeling that there are more distractions in this new environment - because may be you find more distractions than you found in India. Or may be because now your son is reaching that age where you yourself did not have so many things at your disposal (computers/TV/socialising) that you are feeling it is happening to him as an immigrant. Believe me, the so called distractions would have been same (or even more perhaps) if your son was growing in India. It is a generation change distraction - not India / Canada distraction. Please introspect and then decide.


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Iceberg   
Member since: May 05
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-01-10 20:46:50

Good! Read a post in CD after a long time which made sense. Your views are appreciable and very thoughtful.

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Originally posted by chandresh


1. Do you equate education to academics in school or something more than that? I think you are only focussed on school syllabus and not education per se. Would be good if you introspect what is it that you are trying to do - educate the child or force him to get better grades in school (even at the cost of not being educated)

2. Universitities, or 'reputed universities' are not the only source of being able to realize your full potential. In my view, good and reputed universities are good ONLY if you have made up your mind to take up a job after graduating - that means working for someone else. It is because the best employers take new and fresh employees from some universities which then get the title of reputed universities. This would also mean that you have a mindset that your son should only go for a job - never even think of being able to start on his own, follow his passion and turn it into his profession or business.

3. I think that it is you who is feeling that there are more distractions in this new environment - because may be you find more distractions than you found in India. Or may be because now your son is reaching that age where you yourself did not have so many things at your disposal (computers/TV/socialising) that you are feeling it is happening to him as an immigrant. Believe me, the so called distractions would have been same (or even more perhaps) if your son was growing in India. It is a generation change distraction - not India / Canada distraction. Please introspect and then decide.





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