Stories of newly landed immigrants of different academic background.


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JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-14 07:33:15

Update in progress....

The reason I started writing this thread is to help and fill the hope for many new immigrants to establish their professional career through the examples of how others in similar profession have established. I may need to refer many other posts through links.

I also plan to cover opinions about

Jobs and careers with stories from different backgrounds such as (will add more as I hear)..,

(01) Electrical Engineer
(02) Mechanical Engineer.
(03) Civil Engineer.
(04) Petro Chemicals
(05) Chemists and Lab science.
(06) Architects.
(07) Supply chain and Logistics.
(08) Sales and Marketing.
(09) Retails.
(10) Finance
(11) IT
(12) Doctors.
(13) Dentists.
(14) Clinical science and Pharma.
(14) Physiotherapits.
(15) Law
(16) Business owners.
(17) Real estate professionals.

Schools for the kids.,

University education for kids of new immigrants.

Adult education options.

Driving

Renting

Real estate

Raising young kids

Entertainment.


I will rely on a lot of posters who have been sharing valuable information over the area.


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JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-14 07:34:54


Moderator, could this be made sticky in this section.


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The weak died on the way,
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dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-14 11:27:51

I am not sure what the scope of this thread is, but since everyone appears to be in an Easter Egg candy coma, I’ll start with my ramble:

An immigrant’s chance of success is greater…

1. Move when you are young. You have time to be stupid, take risks, learn without the bondage of ego (I have a degree and I was a “lofty titled, pointy haired dude” and so everyone owes me a job… kind of thing) and family tailing you.

2. Have the right attitude. This includes being accepting of the differences (get off the moral high horse, my culture is better than yours, etc) that exist around you.

3. Learn to look at another human being without dissecting the color and ethnicity of that person. You’ll find every human being has something positive to offer, regardless of their origins.

4. Get rid of the rules that you somehow formed in your head. While the so called survival job may turn out to be a necessity, forming a frame of mind that every new immigrant has to go through the initiation period of a survival job is nothing but self-demoralizing.

5. Misery loves company. People who fail hold a negative view of almost anything. Get rid of such “friends” and acquaintances.

6. Assimilate. No one is going to welcome you from anywhere and no one is going to swoon over you because you happened to immigrate. It is you who may have to reach out and make your life less miserable. If at work, you choose to isolate yourself, you will remain isolated.

7. Be confident in your voice and actions. After all, if you have claimed to hold a degree and a good professional career in your past, you should be able to back it up with confidence.

8. Learn the nuances of conversations. Diplomacy is essential in your conversation. Especially, if your work does not entail being buried in front of a computer. A lot of hiring managers, me included, look for a person’s spoken ability as they have to face customers/suppliers/confrontational situations. Just because you can talk in English doesn’t mean you know how to speak English. If you don’t learn the nuances, you’ll get left out and you’ll blame racism (ahhh…coming up next).

9. There are no boogymen. No one is out to get you. If you dwelve on racism, guess what, magically enough, you’ll find it everywhere. If you still believe in racism, consider this. I work with 70 or so people and 69 are white. Imagine the "racism" I go through day in and day out. Surely, your life cannot be as bad as mine.

10. Get rid of the mentality to stereotype the different people.

11. While we are on the topic of stereotyping, I find Indians to possess the least people skills. Learn to smile, say hello, lighten up, listen (and hear), and for heaven’s sake – tune up on your sense of humor. If you are a person with subordinates, remember, there is more to work life than just getting the job done. Show genuine care for the people that work for you and it is not a crime to have a small talk once in a while. Have a group lunch at work every few months or so.

12. Get rid of the mentality - "this is how I did in my country, so I am going to do the same here". As buzz light year said, and I paraphrase, "where I come from, we don't believe in violence...but, we are not in my planet, are we?".....and he goes pummeling Woody. Same here. You are not in your "XXXXX" <insert your country). So, as a couple of examples, it is absolutely ok and will not hurt your pride if you hold the door for others or say thanks when a nice old lady lets you merge on a busy street.

Finally, for the record, I hold a Mechanical and Industrial Engineering degrees and work in Manufacturing, curently in the area of Quality Assurance.


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JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-14 15:09:28



Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

I am not sure what the scope of this thread is




The soft skills part is nicely summed up,
There is a general thinking among immigrants is that if you belong to one of those regulated profession, your chances of landing a job is next to none.
Many in this online community have established from those professions and also shared some information which could be very positive and encouraging to those in such professions.

Its a bit of work to search and update, so a leisurely approach would be taken to update.


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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
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chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 2606
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-14 16:06:07

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

I am not sure what the scope of this thread is, but since everyone appears to be in an Easter Egg candy coma, I’ll start with my ramble:

An immigrant’s chance of success is greater…

1. Move when you are young. You have time to be stupid, take risks, learn without the bondage of ego (I have a degree and I was a “lofty titled, pointy haired dude” and so everyone owes me a job… kind of thing) and family tailing you.




Perhaps the MOST important thing when moving in as an unempolyed immigratnts (not the case with persons who move in with a job in hand either due to inter-company transfers, or due to telephonic interviews results)

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

2. Have the right attitude. This includes being accepting of the differences (get off the moral high horse, my culture is better than yours, etc) that exist around you.




I think that is a general rule for life, not only when moving from one country to another. So even in India we should all keep this in mind.

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001


4. Get rid of the rules that you somehow formed in your head. While the so called survival job may turn out to be a necessity, forming a frame of mind that every new immigrant has to go through the initiation period of a survival job is nothing but self-demoralizing.




That is really a tricky one...........in my case I took up a survival job since everyone around, including the HRDC offices advised me to do that......and it became the biggest problem because my resume then loudly announced that I could not get a reasonable job for this length of time.

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001


11. While we are on the topic of stereotyping, I find Indians to possess the least people skills. Learn to smile, say hello, lighten up, listen (and hear), and for heaven’s sake – tune up on your sense of humor. If you are a person with subordinates, remember, there is more to work life than just getting the job done. Show genuine care for the people that work for you and it is not a crime to have a small talk once in a while. Have a group lunch at work every few months or so.




Hey, hey, now that IS stereotyping (not that you are completely wrong)!!!


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dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-14 19:09:54

Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh

Quote:
Originally posted by dimple2001

I am not sure what the scope of this thread is, but since everyone appears to be in an Easter Egg candy coma, I’ll start with my ramble:

An immigrant’s chance of success is greater…

1. Move when you are young. You have time to be stupid, take risks, learn without the bondage of ego (I have a degree and I was a “lofty titled, pointy haired dude” and so everyone owes me a job… kind of thing) and family tailing you.




Perhaps the MOST important thing when moving in as an unempolyed immigratnts (not the case with persons who move in with a job in hand either due to inter-company transfers, or due to telephonic interviews results)




Agreed. I based my statement based on the fact that the immigration system permits immigrants to land without pre-arranged employment (unlike the US) and therefore, experienced immigrants end up in a harder position than those who might enter as say, students.


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dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-14 19:10:10

Double post


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Contributors: dimple2001(5) febpreet(4) prr18(3) tamilkuravan(3) JRF(3) Gaulam(1) chandresh(1) ramar2005(1) dhaikin(1) elmer fudd(1)



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