Posted on: 05-08-04 00:30:46
I saw the re-run of a documentary / discussion on the CBC ..... I was shocked and appauled at the things I saw are happening around us and we are too busy and occupied in our own rat race that we would ignore a tidal wave approaching.
This topic may not be able to make it to the desi public for discussion ... but .... I had to make an honest effort to bring this topic forward and choose my weapon for this battle.
We as immigrants are very docile and patient when it comes to our surroundings. "Muslim Sharia Court " may not directly effect us ... but it is like a domino effect.... and opening the pandora's box which we would not like to see.... for the simplest reason that we all migrated from the four corners to a certain package of a country/ new home / green pastures etc etc. .... although frankly speaking !!!!! we all faced our disapointments ..... but the point is .... would we like this place to change and turn into something that we do not want ... from which we escaped from in the first place ???? The desi's coming here from the Middle East have a fair idea of this sort of mockery in the name of Justice and Law & Order.
The point of all this ........ are we willing to stand on the sidelines and watch the clowns perform to the beat that would effect us eventually..... or .... are we willing to make a change in order for not changing it. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
PLease consider before you reply.... and .... do justice to the freedom of expression ......... keeping an open mind about this issue.
Basically looking for your point of view .... and making you aware of what's coming our way.
bewaqoof. please explain first , what the documentary is about? what it implied? there may be many like me, who dont switch on the tv...
Hi Bewaqoof,
While the Sharia has been allowed in Ontario (I am not sure whether it is true for the whole country) but if you go through the finer details you will find that there are so many escape routes for an individual that he or she can live without getting intimidated from fundamentalists. Moreover, your fundamental rights are guranteed by the Charter of Rights. The Sharia Court decisions are not final and binding.
Aside from the above I was wondering whether we should be discussing these issues at all on Canadiandesi.
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Bewaqoof,
Your freedom of speech is respected, not your freedom of rhetoric. As you well know, this is a highly flammable topic not suited for a site whose purpose is to serve members of the community regardless of religion.
If you must, you may objectively discuss details and validity of Sharia law in Ontario, but I say that with with much emphasis on the word "objectively". Please understand that I hate snipping threads but I'll have to if you leave me no option.
Kindly make my job easier. Thanks.
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Like I anticipated in my views ..... " This article would not make it to the desi public"
We are not mature enough to handle a few issues which effect our lives directly. Guess we need a lot more time than what what I thought we would. BlueLobster ..... I guess you cannot afford to have real issues discussed on your site except for "IMMIGRATION" or PR Card etc etc ..... what happens after we migrate does not matter. You have your policy to implement I suppose and respect... At least we have found a place to discuss a few things openly.
Bluelobster: As per the flammability of this issue is concerned..... I had asked to understand the issue first and than answer. I liked your choice of words " Rhetoric" ( 
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Yourstruly: I hope you beleve in the "a domino effect" . This issue although in the pipeline and going thru a legal framework..... is being watched very very carefully across the western world .... and there are soooooo many discussions going on as to whether this should or should not be allowed. Guess ignorance is bliss after all. ( not being sarcastic)
Musafir: PLease go to the CBC website and you might find a few answers under Islamic Sharia court in Canada
After all being said ...... I am glad we have a place or "cyber-space" where birds of a feather can cackle on views and share some too. Like all things it is growing in stature and maturing with time.
Sincerely hope that soon we would expand our perceptions too.
God Bless you all.
Into the fire
fyi: the 'law' does not supersede the canadian law and is merely a private arbitration process which is voluntary for the parties involved. Very much like a court would allow a third party mediator to settle a civil dispute outside of the law. This is an already an accepted practice in many western countries.
That being said, there is always a chance that vulnerable parties(like immigrants/women etc) who are not aware of their rights an be taken advantage of, owing to increased societal pressure, under this system which may be at times biased based on the standards of the mediators involved.
Headed for a vacation in a cpl of days so using the down time to say hi to all of you once again. Will think of you guys while sipping that pinacolada
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Orginally posted by Bewaqoof
Like I anticipated in my views ..... " This article would not make it to the desi public"
We are not mature enough to handle a few issues which effect our lives directly. Guess we need a lot more time than what what I thought we would. BlueLobster ..... I guess you cannot afford to have real issues discussed on your site except for "IMMIGRATION" or PR Card etc etc ..... what happens after we migrate does not matter. You have your policy to implement I suppose and respect... At least we have found a place to discuss a few things openly.
Bluelobster: As per the flammability of this issue is concerned..... I had asked to understand the issue first and than answer. I liked your choice of words " Rhetoric" (
Dude, in case you didn't notice, your ENTIRE article is still up there, I haven't deleted it. And desis are discussing it, posting their opinions on it. All I'm trying to prevent is this thread becoming a name-calling match between people of different religions.
All I've edited is your title "Muslim fundamentalism in Canada". Do you not think we can effectively discuss this topic without having a title that would immediately stir up emotions? I have no issues if people discuss this law objectively.
And when I used the word "rhetoric", I was referring to your tidal wave analogy.
Anyways, here's my opinion on it. I don't see a single reason why we need the Sharia law here in Canada. To me, its reeks of voet-getting and influence-peddling. If the Canadian legal system is broken such that a certain community cannot get justice, let's fix that. Why this? And what does this precede, the panchayat system for Indians? I believe in one system for all, I agree with you that is one of the reasons I live in Canada.
But maybe its just my ignorance, maybe someone can explain to me why we need this law.
And Jake, sip a couple extra for me.
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