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Welcome to Canada - A land of opportunities
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“WELCOME TO CANADA: THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITIES”

Hello Canadian Desi friends,
I just saw the article very well written by Chandresh, titled “Is Canada the right place for you?”

I have been living here in Toronto for almost three years now (35 months) and during my stay here I came across hundreds of people who came to Canada as immigrants under the ‘skilled worker’ category. My experiences are also kind of same what most of the immigrants have had or might have had and in a way I agree with what Chandresh has mentioned. I moved here with my wife in February 2001 after leaving my job as Marketing Manager – Product Development with one of the leading telecom companies in India. Before coming to Canada, I was advised by some of our ‘guides’ that in Canada, initially you do not get a job related to your field but its only a matter of time, may be 4-6 months or maximum one year and after that you will have so many choices. So initially one has to work hard. Okay, we prepared ourselves mentally to that extent that even if we have to do cleaning job or porter job or any other to sustain, we will do that. So finally, we landed here.

Now the question arises: why do most of ‘well settled (back home)’people migrate to Canada?

Again, it is a debatable issue. Many would say: of course for better living, for better future of our kids, for better growth opportunities, for social security blah..blah...blah… For all those immigrants (including my self), I have a question: If you are making approx Rs. 30000 to 40000 a month (house hold income), Can’t you maintain the similar kind of life style in India also? Can’t you afford a good car? Can’t you afford an A/C in your house? Can’t you afford a 27” flat screen TV with satellite dish? Can’t you afford putting your kids in best of the schools (might not be in Doon / Welham but still….)?
We will have different answers with different arguments but I think the majority would say (not loudly though): YES. Then why come to Canada? Kids’ future, better opportunities, life style etc..etc…could be just words used to hide the original thinking! How many of us consider ‘another factor’ as a determining factor for immigration which is CURRENCY EXCHANGE! Didn’t we see 1=30 before applying immigration? Didn’t we think that whatever hard work I am doing here (back home), if I do the same in Canada, I may get paid 30 times better and MOREOVER THE QUALITY OF LIFE WILL BE BETTER IN CANADA (PLEASE NOTICE: QUALITY OF LIFE IS A FRINGE BENEFIT OR ADDED ADVANTAGE AND NOT THE PRIMARY CAUSE)!!

If someone says No..No..No.., this is all crap, I would say: Be honest my dear, not with the world but at least with yourself! For those who come here in Canada after spending years and years in Middle East or Africa or other countries, I can understand their argument for ‘BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE’ but again that comes second, because they save lot of money ($$$$$$$) before coming to Canada. But at the first place what made them to go to Middle East, live in extreme hot weather conditions (50 degrees) and sacrifice their social life? Once they achieve the target of ‘PHYSIOLOGICAL (MATERIALISTIC) STATUS, they get hungry for QUALITY OF LIFE. Then they start moving to ‘SELF ESTEEM’.

I am not ashamed of admitting the fact that 1=30 was the primary factor for moving to Canada. Everyone comes here to make money, accept it or not!! In addition, even if one does not come with that thinking, they start thinking on those terms very soon.

THIS IS WHAT CANADA IS! THIS IS WHAT THE CULTURE IS! AFTER COMING HERE WE SAY THAT THE FAMILY VALUES ARE ZERO.
DIDN’T WE KNOW THAT BEFORE COMING HERE?
EVERYONE HAS TV IN HIS HOME, EVERYONE HAS INTERNET AND EVERYONE IS EXPOSED TO THE WORLD. EVERYONE KNEW THAT GIRLS BECOME MOTHERS WHILE THEY ARE DOING HIGH SCHOOL AND YET THEY DON’T KNOW WHO THE FATHER OF THAT BABY IS.
EVERYONE KNEW THAT PARENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PUNISH THEIR KIDS FOR THEIR MISCHIEVES, 911 IS JUST A CALL AWAY……………………….THE LIST GOES ON!!!

My dear friends, lets be realistic. We come here as ‘skilled workers’. Canada needs skilled workers and NOT SKILLED MANAGERS or SKILLED PROFESSIONALS. So forget about all those KOOCHY KOOCHY things, Lets get down to the real thing.
When we were new to Canada, we were told that you can not lie here. It is very truthful country. They respect your honesty and truthfulness! Okay, we started applying for the jobs and mentioned all qualifications and experiences in the Resume. We would apply for all kinds of jobs let it be cashier at the McDonald’s or Wendy’s or Future Shop or a call center job…….they would look at the resume and advise you: You know you have wonderful profile, your qualification and experience is ‘AWSOME’ but may be this job is not suitable for you. We would say: No..No.. We can do any kind of job. We don’t have any hang ups. We are ready to do anything do gain Canadian Experience…………still employer would say: SORRY. THIS JOB IS NOT FOR YOU. WHY DON’T YOU TRY SOMEWHERE ELSE?
Then we met some ‘Canadians’. They advised us not to mention real qualifications and experience, make 10-12 different types of Resumes (supposed to be Tailor Made Resumes as per Job Requirements) and then apply again in those companies after some time. The trick worked!!!!!!! We got our first job in the same companies where we had applied about couple of months ago. No body rejected us. WELCOME TO CANADA, THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITIES!!!
MORAL: “DO NOT LIE BUT DO NOT ALSO DISCLOSE ALL YOUR QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE IF YOU WANT A JOB”
Now we go further. One of our friends went to Bank to open an account. He asked for the unsecured credit card. They straight away refused because he was not on the job for 1 year continuously. Then someone introduced him with some ‘broker’. He got him an unsecured Credit Card from the same bank, off course, he charged some fee for that.

WELCOME TO CANADA, THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITIES!!!
MORAL: “EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE IN THIS WORLD BUT NOTHING COMES FREE”

Above are some of the examples. Other than that, there are number of small / big things where one feels that the same was in India also. Corruption was there, corruption is here, no difference. The only difference is that back home people have guts to admit and they used to bribe and get bribed openly and here IT IS ALL UNDER THE TABLE. You want a job in a good company where your friend is also working….you go there directly, they might not even have a look on your resume but if you give your Resume to your friend and he submits it to HR Dept, chances are there at least they will call you for an interview and if you get hired, you get a job and your friend may get between $250 - $500 as the ‘referral bonus’. In India, we used to call it ‘SIFAARISH, HERE THEY CALL IT REFERRENCES THROUGH NETWORK’. Within these 35 months in Canada, I have come to the conclusion: CANADA IS A LAND OF OPPORTUNITES PROVIDED ONE SHOULD KNOW THE LOOPHOLES OF THE SYSTEM. “SACH KHOLO MAT, JHOOTH BOLO MAT”…..If you do like this, then Canada Govt. is pretty happy!!

Anyway, you came to Canada to earn dollars so concentrate on earning dollars. Do not shy away from doing jobs or businesses like Truck Driving or Taxi Driving or Basement Renovations or Electrician or Plumbers etc. I can challenge that all these above mentioned professions give you much more money than what you earn by doing shift jobs in a factory or working as a Salesman at Future Shop. Stop dreaming about your ‘own field’ job. Slog your ….for 3-4 years, work smart, save some dollars, go back home and start some small / medium scale business there in your own city / town / village and give employment to 2 more fellow Indians. Even if you do not want to go back then start a business here and employ 1 Desi and 1 Gora (please). After all they ruled our country for 100 years; it becomes our moral duty towards our motherland that we rule at least one Gora here. INKE HI WATAN MEIN AA KAR, INKE UPAR RAJ KARNE MEIN BAHUT MAZA AAYEGA…….BELIEVE ME.
At the end of the day what matters here in Canada is your financial strength.

If you can afford:-
a 2004 Infinity instead of a 1994 Chev Cavalier, a brand new house with no tenants in the basement instead of having a three bedroom house and two tenants in the basements, shopping around at the Eaton Centre instead of the Westwood Mall, buying a 32” flat screen TV on Diwali or Eid instead of waiting for the X-Mas day sale or Boxing Day deals, going out and having a-la carte dinner with your family at some Indian / Italian restaurant in Downtown Toronto instead of having an unlimited buffet in $6.99 in some ‘cheap and best’ Desi Mithai Shop, buy your wife / husband an original diamond studded Gucci watch instead of buying a so-called ‘beautiful and durable’ watch from Wal-Mart or Zellers with the argument ki ‘Sirf Time hi to dekhna hai’, buy your washroom accessories like soap holder from TUBS: The Ultimate Bath Store instead of Dollar Rama…………..the list goes on and on and on…..; only then you can say that you are successful in Canada.

Then no body would mind whether you are a truck driver or taxi driver or plumber etc…Everybody would give the argument: “THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF CANADA, DIGNITY OF LABOUR IS THERE”. Everyone will try to make FAMILY RELATIONS with you because they know that you are not illiterate, you are well qualified otherwise Canada would not accept you as immigrant, you know English that’s why you are reading this article and you are familiar with latest technology because you are going through CanadianDesi.com on the internet. Even your relatives/friends would ignore your profession here because you would be sending them money on regular basis and you will get them gifts every time you go back to visit them. THAT IS THE REALITY OF LIFE, MY DEAR FRIENDS. ACCEPT IT!!

So in this New Year 2004, let’s have a resolution that we are here in Canada to be successful and the success is directly connected with the financial back up. WE HAVE TO GROW TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY. WE MUST HAVE THAT KIND OF COURAGE AND WILL POWER THAT WE ACCEPT THE FACTS. WE MUST DO ATLEAST ONE GOOD THING TO BRIGHTEN THE NAME OF OUR ‘MATRI-BHOOMI OR MADRE-ZAMEEN OR MOTHER LAND’. THESE PEOPLE HERE IN WETSERN WORLD MUST UNDERSTAND AND REALISE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS NOT A ‘BHOOKHA AND NANGA’ COUNTRY BUT IT IS FULL OF KNOWLEDAGBLE, HARD WORKING, SINCERE AND CULTURED PEOPLE WHO ALSO KNOW HOW TO EARN AND SAVE MONEY AND STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY OF THE COUNTRY ALONG WITH THE HERITAGE. LET’S HAVE A VISION THAT AFTER 10 YEARS IT SHOULD NOT BE $1 = Rs 30 BUT IT SHOULD BE $ 30 = Re. 1. WE ARE INDEBTED TO OUR FREEDOM FIGHTERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR US. LET’S MAKE THEIR DREAMS COME TRUE OF COMPLETE FREEDOM, EVERYBODY WITH FOOD AND SHELTER, EVERY VILLAGE WITH WATER AND ELECTRICTY SUPPLY….. AND START WORKING IN THAT DIRECTION ONLY.

P.S.: I apologize if I hurt somebody’s feelings.



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happyji   
Member since: Dec 03
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-04 12:25:40

Mishtar Indiaji,

Wah...Wah...

Kya Ishtyle hai aapka!!

Geet Gata hoon main
Gungunata hoon main
Maine hansne ka vaada kiya tha kabhi
Isliye ab sada muskurata hoon main....

(ise hi jhel lo..aur to kuchh yaad nahin aa raha tha....);)

Rgds



chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 2606
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-01-04 22:16:15

Disclaimer: These are purely personal experiences and comments based on personal liking. Readers might have different experiences or different priorities/value systems, and so their views on the points mentioned below may be different, and therefore are NOT debatable.

Also, these comparisons are based on Canada vis a vis India (those parts that I have lived in). They might not hold good for any other country/ies.

The reason to migrate to any country is mostly on personal choice and sometimes forced upon due to various reasons. The people who are thinking of migrating, or have recently landed in Canada can look forward to various advantages/benefits, some of which are mentioned hereunder:

1. The factor of multiplication is a big benefit – 35 to 1. Due to this factor, a person doing similar job for same no of hours back home can get make roughly 4-5 times the money in Indian Rupee terms.
2. For many, if not all, a social status back home that “vo to phoren main rahta hai”
3. On landing in Canada, you stand in a carpeted or very clean lobby, with working toilets if someone needs to “go” and an officer who greets you with “welcome to canada”.
4. After clearing the airport, you find working trolleys, which can take big bags, and not something that looks to be designed for keeping an overnighter.
5. When you come out, whether the first time, or nth time, taxi drivers, hotel reps etc. etc. don’t crowd on you to make you feel you wanna go back inside!
6. A very clean air immediately hits you – and suddenly you start feeling it was the first time you were breathing.

Life In Canada

1. First and foremost – you have constant supply of electricity and water, and blackouts are rare. You do not have to wake up early in the morning to fill up your buckets, tubs, tankees or take a shower. Similarly, you do not have to sweat in heat or live under candlelight in summers, or be disturbed by the noise and smoke of mini generators.
2. No visible pollution! You breathe better and your shirt collar does not become black by lunchtime. Infact, you can wear one set of clothes for 2-3 days without feeling bad.
3. The roads you travel on are good, infact great and you do not have to be on constant alert that someone might just decide to jump in front of you. In India, you might be driving a Honda or Lancer or Merc, but you have to drive on road full of pits, speed breakers and various sorts of vehicles. Here a motorcycle has right to the same space as a car, and it is illegal to overtake a mobike in the same lane.
4. The buses you commute on are cleaner, air-conditioned and the driver many a times greets you. For disabled persons, the bus lowers down, puts out a ramp on which you can place the wheelchair and lifts it back to sitting level. So a wheelchair bound person can easily commute on most of the routes without any help.
5. The roads have sidewalks – so people wanting to walk can do so without worrying for traffic. Similarly, a pedestrian’s right of way is given due regard. You don’t have to dash to the other side of the road to avoid a car hitting you on pedestrians crossing.
6. Govt offices – the ultimate ‘sunvayi’ might be better or worse than India – but you get to wait in a nice and clean office mostly. And rarely would you find any “sarkari mulajim” talking to you as if he owned the place and did not have enough sleep at home (exceptions can be there – but rare!)
7. The roads and sidewalks are clean – mostly – without any garbage on the road. If garbage is there, it is mostly packed in big plastic bags and kept there to be picked up by the municipality truck, sooner rather than later.
8. There are fines for traffic violations –and applied too. If it is green light, you can safely speed up, without worrying that another vehicle might come from your right or left beating the red light (sometimes that happens, but unlike India, you do not have to be on the lookout for that!)
9. Coming from Gandhi’s land, we actually do what he preached, here in Canada. We do our own dishes, we vacuum our floors and we also clean our toilets ourselves. For those who are idealistic about society and human rights, this has great meaning.
10. We do not work or live in buildings that are smothered with ‘paan ki peek’ and other types of body wastes lying on floor which are so common in India. Nor do we come across graffiti on staircases/elevators in the office or residential buildings (exceptions are there), or on boundary walls (“Prof Arora – rishte hi rishte”;).
11. Eve-teasing in public is absent or rare – I hear there is, though I have not seen it. Buses are safe from that point of view
12. Weather – that is the greatest thing. Summers are absolutely great with everything so lush green, the fields look like thick green carpet and flowers look extremely beautiful. Fall / Autumn is amazingly colourful – it seems some painter has actually painted the trees with wonderful imagination. Winters are harsh, but the snowfall is wonderful to watch and great for children to play. In Delhi, a +1 temperature might be killing with no proper heating – but here one can easily survive in –30 degrees with proper clothing, and enjoy the snow too. Spring – really brings the springs live in you. The temperatures are great and you feel so energetic.
13. For an Indian, all kinds of Indian food is available – and at most of the places, in a cleaner surrounding and with better ingredients than in India, because of strict laws. Vegetarians need not fear – unlike many other places on the globe where finding vegetarian food is like looking for a needle in bundle of hay, all kinds of veggie food is available and in abundance.
14. I have never seen my phone line go dead – even when they were laying new pipelines/cables in the surrounding areas!

The above points about life in Canada makes me live in Canada with all its difficulties – because though individually they might be small things, collectively they become the “quality of life”, and I value them more than other luxuries of life. I do not compare politics and politicians, because they are beyond me and do not directly affect my daily living. Nor does corruption or lack or more of it.

These are just some of the reasons why I feel one should want to migrate to Canada from India, or South Asia – but as I said earlier, they are my views and values.

And yes!!!
15. An advantage for being coloured and not good looking – when commuting by bus or train, I get a full seat unless it is difficult for the whites to find a better person to share it with!


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guru420   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 135
Location: White House, DC

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-04-04 13:08:54

your experience is no diferent than any other professional immigrant, not just from india but many other countries.

however the unity is something u highlighted and our south asian brethern does not have it. we tend to behave like anglo degenerates once we come up and bigin kiss their as*ses even more. there was guy name raj anand, minister for ministry of human rights, and this guy took a stance for the anglo majority and forgot that his real job was defend the rights of minorities.

we can not learn a lesson from the jewish community. they stick together. they will hire the jewish person first, then anglo sax and then the immigrant in a white collar and even blue collar position. do i need to write about our very "desi anglos" who are in better position?


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MAYUR MEHTA   
Member since: Jul 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-07-04 13:55:51

I've been reading some of the problems for finding job for new immigrants, which is scaring and casting doubts and fear in the mind of prospective immigrants like me.

Can any local person ,residing in toronto & an immigrant actually guide me on the ground reality?

Is it so finding job is difficult? You cannot get job without any referrals?

Please reply


mayur



Smiley   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 1185
Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-07-04 13:59:43

Hey Mayur

Where are u located and what job are you looking for ?


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kuwaituser   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 94
Location: Kuwait

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-07-04 02:16:41

How are the job prospects in Tononto and its neighbourhood for 45+. Generally in India employers prefer employing people in their 30s. Do the advertisements generally mention applicants who are below ..... should only apply ?



deepcb   
Member since: Mar 04
Posts: 142
Location: Dubai

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-07-04 06:42:08


Mr. Kuwait,

If you are 45 plus, then getting a job in Canada seems a distant dream.

Since you are in Kuwait, you are supposed to have enough money. For your info, I am in Dubai. I have seen a lot of Canada in 2002. With 12 yrs exp working in Oil co. as Senior Engineer, you will find nothing in Canada.

This is not because there are no jobs.....unfortunately with my qual+exp I belonged to a category of payscale $ 70k plus. which the Canadians are not willing to accept.

For a person coming from India, everything looks bright and new in Canada because they have not seen luxuries of life / Western life style in India. This makes them work for pea nuts / labor jobs bacause they are fancied by the land and want to make life there.

But for a person like me after seeing all luxuries of life in Dubai I am not surprised to see Canada. I was actually disappointed when i landed ....I was under the impression that it would be something like heaven...what you see in Hindi movies, but that is not reality.

Ground rule is that ..the more qualified you are the more difficult it is to get jobs....the same applies if you are in senior position. 95% chances are that nobody will give you Managerial / Senior level jobs in Canada. At 45 you are not supposed to work as an assitant to a 24 year old...am I right?

If you can sacrifice dignity and are ready to do any labor / low level job, you can manage in Canada. I dont know your educational background.....so just corelate as required.

I have another story to tell..........

This is regarding my driving test. I just practiced few hours with an Indian chap before going for test.

Inspector was a Canadian white lady. 15 minutes of test was done so beautifully by me that she congratulated after test and shook hands with me........and told YOU REALLY DRIVE VERY WELL !!!!!!!!!!! and she signed my papers and told you have passed the test.

After that she asked me..you are from India? I said..yes Madam...but I was driving last 10 years in a place called Dubai where roads and bridges are better that what you see in Canada.......and for your info I drive BMW.

She was shocked...her expressions revealed that she did not agree that she belived that there are other places on Earth where roads are better than Canada.

Moral of the story is.............a qualified person worked in American and British companies in Dubai having driven latest cars and had 5 course dinner in 7 Star hotels..........would be treated the same way as Mr XYZ B.A. from the village Bhagalpur goes to Canada, because we are all Asians.

Hence work out your priorities......If you have money.....buy a house in Canada...send your kids to school.....by the time they are 18 they will have Canadian accent.....if they go to College its a bonus......thats enough for your kids to get a good job in Canada and they will have brighter future.

My experience says.....I dont see any career/future for you.......but for your kids YES /OF COURSE......... The world respects a DEGREE from a third rate American/Canadian College...But not from a highly reputed Indian University........

Go with the flow.........My 2 cents for you.


Deep


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