Sachin Tendulkar is he a legend or not ?


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shankaracharya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-11-06 11:53:05

Sachin Tendulkar is going through a very rough patch. It is time he hangs up his bat. Brian Lara (34 centuries with 9 X 200's)is improving day by day and he along with Ricky Ponting(106 matches for his 32 centuries) are breathing down his ears on Sachin's for the various records.

Is Sachin a paper tiger ?.

Legends have left a mark on the game and when they go, we miss them for eg: Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Viv Richards, Steve Waugh. Is Sachin destroying all the good will that he has earned over many years and make people start asking How Long More?.


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desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 08:06:00

IMO, his golden days are over. He is in the team due to the sponsors who have invested crores on him. And the chairman of the selection committee is Dilip Vengsarkar (last time it was Kiran More from Baroda).
Note that Sachin is unable to face classy fast bowlers who send raising deliveries.

DIO



puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 12:05:21

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Originally posted by desi in ottawa

IMO, his golden days are over. He is in the team due to the sponsors who have invested crores on him. And the chairman of the selection committee is Dilip Vengsarkar (last time it was Kiran More from Baroda).
Note that Sachin is unable to face classy fast bowlers who send raising deliveries.

DIO



Oops sorry DIO sent you a message


Anyway, Sachin is in the team not because of "vengsarkar" or the "crores" his sponsors are spending. If you look at the stats for the season 2006-2007, it will tell you why Sachin is in the team

Player - ODI - Avg.
Rahul Dravid - 8 - 20.25
Viru Sehwag - 7 - 17.00
Yuvraj S - 4 - 18.00
M Kaif - 4 - 20.00
M Dhoni - 8 - 20.42
S Raina - 8 - 15.42


Then you have

Sachin - 8 - 47.28


Now tell me of all the player in the "batting lineup" who deserves to be in the Indian team. You should be thankfull to Vengsarkar if he is the reason for Sachin to be in the team. Also the people who spend "crores" know who is going to deliver.

Agreed that Sachin has not performed to his full capability, but considering his present form he is good enough to be in Indian cricket team. He was the only batsman who had any idea of how to play south africa in the last match, rest of the team looked "jet lagged" .


Cheers

The stats have been compiled from http://www.cricinfo.com" rel="nofollow">LINK



jughead   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 12:56:11

Well said, Puttoo.

Agreed, Sachin may not be the world's best any more. Lara is in scintillating form at the twilight of his career, and Ponting is in the form of his life as well. But Sachin still has a few more years left in him. As far as I'm concerned, he is still India's best batsman, yes, even better than Dravid.

Many in the Indian team have come and gone showing some glimpses of brilliance in a few matches. But Sachin is one man who has stood tall since his debut at 16, and for a large part of his career, has single handedly won matches for India or brought us heart-breakingly close, the latter due to lack of support from his team mates than anything else. He has survived so many injuries, match-fixing scandals that rocked the nation, and shouldered more weight of expectations than any cricketer in the world ever has. All that is taking its toll. But let's not write him off yet. If Lara at 37 could come back from the dead (remember, most had written Lara off a few years back), why can't Sachin at 33? I'm still rooting for Sachin to get past Lara's test world record number of runs. Remember, he is still far ahead of the pack in the One-dayers.

Some twenty years back, we said the same thing of one Sunil Manohar Gavaskar. There were cries for his retirement all over. We accused him of continuing on for his own selfish reasons. But, to this date, we haven't found an opening batsman in test cricket (no, Sehwag doesn't even come close) who can fill the gap he left when he finally retired after his brilliant last innings.

Sachin, a paper tiger? Hardly.



desi in ottawa   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 13:34:23

Where is Sachin when we need? We saw the drubbing in both th ematches in proteas. Even the warm up match we lost.



shankaracharya   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 15:40:46

ALAS ONE POSITIVE STATEMENT FROM A CRICKET ADMINISTRATOR IN INDIA:

When one player was informed about the situation back home by a journalist, he said he had no clue either of :cheers: Board vice-president Shashank Manohar’s view that the players shouldn’t be paid for losing the second one-dayer in Durban:cheers: or Sharad Pawar asking chief of selectors Dilip Vengsarkar to fly out to South Africa.

http://www.mid-day.com/sports/international/2006/november/147228.htm


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Speech by Thomas Friedman of The New York Times....

"When we were young kids growing up in America, we were told to eat our
vegetables at dinner and not leave them. Mothers said, 'think of the
starving children in India and finish the dinner.' And now I tell my
children: 'Finish your maths homework. Think of the children in India
who would make you starve, if you don't.'"


ramar2005   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-11-06 22:48:53

If India is batting second we can be almost sure that there will not be any sizable contribution from Sachin. During the last few years, when he appeared comfortably settled and when there was no need, we find him playing across the line and get LBW to a delivery that he normally would send it to 4 in straight/extra cover . Compared to Jayasuriya, Aravinda de Silva, Steve Waugh or Michael Bevan, both Lara and Sachin have not guided the team to victory, though they may be all time greats.


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