Why are we doing it ?


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rahul_singh23   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-06-07 16:41:44

I know good job, salary, technology and all the latest gadgets are available in India. Fun concept in India means drinking/eating in expensive restaurant, shopping expensive brands, watching movie at PVR.

But we also need clean air, water, lakes, rivers, big urban parks, unspoiled jungles, civilized society, good garbage and sanity disposal system, clean public transport, good social security, public services and public health care. We need place for walking, running, hiking, swimming pools, river rafting, cycling, skiing, boating and all sorts of sports activities. On top of that all these activities ladies can do same as men do here (That is different story that mostly Indian ladies are not into active lifestyle).


1. How much active lifestyle people enjoy or give to their children/spouse in India?
2. What is social/medical security people have in India even taxes are higher there in high salary bracket?
3. If unluckily tomorrow china and other countries can do same job in cheaper price, then salaries will go down in India then how you will manage your flying colors? (TCS already started development center in China)
4. If you are IAS/IPS/high govt. figure than you have respect on the road or in public.... what happen if Hawaa Singh Hawaldar takes you out from your Honda and hit you in front of public? You can do only transfer to him or 6 months suspend.
5. rediff, GDP, marketing companies all are putting colorful number about Indian development story. But that is happening only in few cities and high tech jobs. 90% India is still same/ same problems/same mindset/ same people/same public services.



jonav   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 08:51:08

Hi,

I think I'm late in reading this thread but couldn't stop to write my thoughts. The decision of staying a NRI or returning back to India haunts many of us, there are reasons for us to stay as NRI's and there are reasons for us to go back. I personally feel that people who were settled in India but came to Canada or elsewhere looking for better opportunities are mostly disappointed and compare their life before and after.

The young relocates, mainly students find it easy to adjust and because of their education find good jobs too. Their foreign education makes it easy for them to choose whether to stay here or to return, they know they can make it big wherever they are. Friends, all of us in 30’s and 40’s have become sandwich generation, thinking of our parents at one side and our kids on another. Until now I haven’t got this answer why we are here? Every individual has his/her own reasons but if money is the reason we came here then we can never go back because it’ll never be enough. If better facilities/infrastructure is the reason then also we’ll never go back.

SK reading your friends story made me really sad. My parents are in their 50’s, still young on health standards but one never knows. The thought of loosing them frightens me. The relatives in India don’t understand the pain and dilemma we face, for them we are living in paradise and away from all these tensions. Forget it. I just want to say that you are not alone in this, many of us are with you and can relate what you and your friends would have felt. God is with all of us.

Take care……………………….Jona



Big Vee   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 09:11:20

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Originally posted by jonav
I personally feel that people who were settled in India but came to Canada or elsewhere looking for better opportunities are mostly disappointed and compare their life before and after.



Mostly dissappointed?? I don't think so. That is a gross misrepresentation of the desis I know. Everyone of my friends and I are more than happy to be here. In fact, there is no where else in the WORLD I'd rather be!

Quote:
Originally posted by jonav
SK reading your friends story made me really sad. My parents are in their 50’s, still young on health standards but one never knows. The thought of loosing them frightens me. The relatives in India don’t understand the pain and dilemma we face, for them we are living in paradise and away from all these tensions. Forget it. I just want to say that you are not alone in this, many of us are with you and can relate what you and your friends would have felt. God is with all of us.



Such melodrama!!:cry: :cry: Thought of loosing your parents frightens you??:( :( I have news for you. Even if you were in India, you could not prevent loosing your parents! So I suggest you toughen up and face the facts of life (and death). Sheesh. No matter who you are, where you are, YOU ARE GOING TO LOOSE YOUR PARENTS! There I said it.

BV



jonav   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 12:05:56

Big Vee, what you call melodrama can be emotions for me, so please don't play with them. I know I have to loose them one day and my kids will loose me one day too but is it wrong to be fearful to loose your near ones?? Go ask my mom-in-law who was a widow at 28 and my husband who lost his father at 4 or many more families like us where death was more a shock then a reality. Still life goes on. I wish you knew the difference in drama and emotions.

Regarding my misinterpretation on Desi’s I already wrote “I personally feel”, its good to know that you and your friends are happy. God bless you with more of it.

Jona



tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 14:26:25

Jona,
Very nice reply to BigVee.
Looks like BigVee is situated in a place surrounded by him and himself only. His statement :

"Mostly dissappointed?? I don't think so. That is a gross misrepresentation of the desis I know. Everyone of my friends and I are more than happy to be here. In fact, there is no where else in the WORLD I'd rather be!"

looks as if he was in all the countries of the world and that he has found Canada to be the best.
very childish but as they say "The child is the father of man"

TK A


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
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Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 14:37:29

I did not read the whole post but reading this page and esp the replt from BV makes me comment such :

Some people care for their parents and some do not .
Those who care are remorseful of having left them behind and try to be in touch with as much as possible efforting to sponsor them or maybe return back to them . Being in India makes a lot of difference to them as they can come to us any time as much as we can . Death may be imminent but its impact is pacified if one is with one s own .

Caring and emotions is the stuff human beings are built of. I wish those who lack it can have a share of it to know its worth. In Canda / US people do not stay with parents when they grow up even when they are in the same city whereas in India they do. Just a matter of customs and values.

Lastly I have felt that there are 02 kind of people who migrate from India . Those who were doing well and find them in doing as well /not as well in Canada but comprehend what they have lost in the deal . Then there s the category which was not having much of worth in India but are happy when they are in Canada because Canada has got a good social system . Its easier for most people to have an apartment and a car and that means most to them in life .

Finally - home is where the heart is - even if I get the best of environment , infrastructure , life and make me feel an alien - I will wonder whats good for me - system or identity ?


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mynameisraj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-06-07 16:00:15

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Originally posted by Fido

Finally - home is where the heart is - even if I get the best of environment , infrastructure , life and make me feel an alien - I will wonder whats good for me - system or identity ?




Ummm...so what do you think is good for you mate? System or identity? Or are you still wondering?

Such lack of conviction...such a shame.





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