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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 19:03:09

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Originally posted by gopalpai

Let me tell you about this person, who was staying in Toronto who lost his job due to lockout of company in Toronto. So, he applied for job in SK and he got a good offer of $5000/- and they helped in relocation also. He went happily winding up here and joined the organisation. The treatment which made him cry and then he was thrown out of job within 3 months.

1. he was made to sit alone in corner during lunchtime and nobody would talk to him. He was made to feel lonely, inspite of his cordiality and friendliness.

2. after his using microven, they would clean microven and talk softly and laugh at him.

3. Though he was good at work, they would give wrong reports that he is not good at work and his accent is poor etc.

4. when called in a party, he would not be allowed to say cheers and touch the glass.

5. they would all be together in all function and since he is black in colour he would be left alone and they would look at him as if he is a dirt.

All these behaviour make him come and cry at home. He is a very strong person that is why he did not leave job and made them throw him out of job in 3 months time.

How many of us would have tolerated such treatment for 3 months?




How does someone take you by the hand when you are over 18 years old and 'make" you sit in a corner. How does someone "make" you feel lonely? Those are within your own control.

how did he "make" them throw him out of a job after 3 months. If he is so strong then none of the above issues would have bothered him.


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ILOVENA   
Member since: Jan 09
Posts: 295
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 19:12:24

Morning rain: I agree with you that it is virtually impossible for someone to make one do something, against his will. The exception is when the coercer has a weapon, and that does not apply here.

I have had the fortune of working for one desi company , and several that are not (you know what I mean). As much as some may not agree, I found that there were more divisions in the company owned operated by Indians - like which state you were from, what your mother tongue was and whether you were a vegetarian or not.

In striking contrast, I have never felt any kind of discrimination in any of the other organizations. I could feel the difference, in terms of their political correctness, which one could call politeness or etiquette.

What Gopal pai's friend went through, could be an isolated case. Besides, we don't know the other side of the story. If racism was so common, there would have been race riots here too!



Iceberg   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 919
Location: GTA and beyond

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 19:15:57



Just one clarication - are the 'they' - who offerred the job and relocation, different from the 'they' in your five points ?

Quote:
Originally posted by gopalpai

Let me tell you about this person, who was staying in Toronto who lost his job due to lockout of company in Toronto. So, he applied for job in SK and he got a good offer of $5000/- and they helped in relocation also. He went happily winding up here and joined the organisation. The treatment which made him cry and then he was thrown out of job within 3 months.

1. he was made to sit alone in corner during lunchtime and nobody would talk to him. He was made to feel lonely, inspite of his cordiality and friendliness.

2. after his using microven, they would clean microven and talk softly and laugh at him.

3. Though he was good at work, they would give wrong reports that he is not good at work and his accent is poor etc.

4. when called in a party, he would not be allowed to say cheers and touch the glass.

5. they would all be together in all function and since he is black in colour he would be left alone and they would look at him as if he is a dirt.

All these behaviour make him come and cry at home. He is a very strong person that is why he did not leave job and made them throw him out of job in 3 months time.

How many of us would have tolerated such treatment for 3 months?

:) :)



morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 19:22:30

The way I see it, if a company has the resources to hire a candidate from another province and provide them with relocation expenses, then the job the person was hired for is likely a white collar, or professional in a specialized position

Gopalpai's friend may have faced discrimination based on any factors - I am not trying to be reverse - discriminatory here but did he dress well? Did he try too hard to fit in? Did he wear too much aftershave/cologne or alternately smell like food (any strong smell is offensive in today's workplace).

Even if he faced dislike from his colleagues - had he gone to the HR department to discuss the toxic workplace? Did he belong to a Union? did he file a grievance?

Did the employer realize he is new and offer him the assistance of a mentor?

Most employers, especially in the prairie provinces are well aware of affirmative action policies.

Human nature is still human nature. No one will be accepted everywhere. I have worked in a few different companies and some places you fit in a lot easier, and others you do not.

Perhaps it was an isolated case as someone mentioned.


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 20:34:08

Quote:
Originally posted by gopalpai
Let me tell you about this person, who was staying in Toronto who lost his job due to lockout of company in Toronto. So, he applied for job in SK and he got a good offer of $5000/- and they helped in relocation also. He went happily winding up here and joined the organisation. The treatment which made him cry and then he was thrown out of job within 3 months.
1. he was made to sit alone in corner during lunchtime and nobody would talk to him. He was made to feel lonely, inspite of his cordiality and friendliness.
2. after his using microven, they would clean microven and talk softly and laugh at him.
3. Though he was good at work, they would give wrong reports that he is not good at work and his accent is poor etc.
4. when called in a party, he would not be allowed to say cheers and touch the glass.
5. they would all be together in all function and since he is black in colour he would be left alone and they would look at him as if he is a dirt.
All these behaviour make him come and cry at home. He is a very strong person that is why he did not leave job and made them throw him out of job in 3 months time.
How many of us would have tolerated such treatment for 3 months?


Well. I can relate to this. When I came to Canada in 2002, I was working for a printing press in the Jane and 407 area and there I found that there were a lot of Sri Lankans working (most of them related). The Sri lankans were pushed to a specific area (not that they disliked it) and the only native that they came in contact was the Supervisor. No native would talk to this group. In the dining rooms and in the benches outside, there was a seperate division.
I also heard that one specific native supervisor was always insulting a senior sri lankan labourer and that one day the Sri Lankan labourer hit the native supervisor. The company mediated among the two and made both their work areas seperate.
I have not worked in any labour firm after that but in my expericene in a professional consultancy firm in Vaughan, I have found out (both directly and indirectly) that they never consider immigrants as equals or even as humans who should be respected.
So I donot doubt these kinds of work places in the western provinces or in places where the penertration of immigrants is very less.

Peace by TK
Side note : As a summery, I would like to state that I was interviewed by a company in Sault St. Marie and (even before I disclosed that I was an East Indian), the firms proprier told me that Essar Steel from East India was their main employer and that that firm was growning by leaps and bounds and they were thankful for Essar Steel. Looks like many like the money that the East Indians bring but not the people themselves.


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mkannuri   
Member since: Nov 06
Posts: 409
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-01-10 12:25:04

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for a single Man!!!!!!...Saskatchewan is heaven;)




Can you please eloberate more how SK could be heaven for singleman?
do you mean single men can get good food, save money on expenses, pubs, clubs, potential brides?

Just curious to know...:cheers:


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gopalpai   
Member since: Jul 09
Posts: 917
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-01-10 14:17:40

mgupta, pl don't give away secrets like this or else we (married ladies) will end up as single mother :)

Jokes apart, please elaborate how single person (bachelor) benefits from a certain place. You must have tempted all men on the forum to leave their wives and children and relocate to SK. If such things happen, we (married women) all over from other places will have heaven with their husband in SK.;) :(


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