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Posted on: 06-08-06 17:27:33
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i dont quite follow your meaning here. I am sure you are not suggesting hez is following the rules of engagement.
When in hell did israel start following the rules of engagement?
Killing a thousand civilians, occupying land belonging to others for years and years or are in you denial like this guy here,
What choice does Israel have? If terrorists decide to hide within the civilian structure, what else are they supposed to do?
And Israel still is subject to a lot of criticism from the west when civilians get killed. But when Hizb. fires rockets indicriminately into their land, not a single muslim nation will get up and criticize and disown them. Similarly in Iraq, there's a big ruckus (as there should be) over crimes committed by US soldiers. But every other day, the extremists set off bombs in all sort of public places killing civilians. I wonder if there are long documentaries about this and how ruthless the extremists are on Al-Jazeera. And that the Arab media dissects and strongly condemns these attacks and brands these people as the disgrace to their religion they are. I highly doubt it! That's what I meant when I made the rules of engagement point.
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Originally posted by Dr B Hadad
I meant that it would be to Israel's benefit to portray the killed as
"people" instead of soldiers.
As it would benefit the Hez that it was 'soldiers' that got killed...even though the Hez are openly indiscriminate.
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You have the right to your beef.
I have no beef with that.
tnx
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i dont quite follow your meaning here. I am sure you are not suggesting hez is following the rules of engagement..
the opposite obviously. I dont know how you drew any other conclussion. I meant the media seems to act like Israel is the only one suppossed to follow the rules of engagement
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When in hell did israel start following the rules of engagement?
Killing a thousand civilians, occupying land belonging to others for years
How far would you go? Approx 639 AD when the Arab muslims conquered Jerusalem or before that? We can play a nice game of who has the 'right' to the land. Each side will stop at the time exactly convenient to them. Then claim 'moral right' to whatever their cause.
Land does not 'belong' to anyone. In other words land(or any other resource) has always 'belonged' to anyone who has been able to hold it. This is as true on the Indian subcontinent(mughals, british etc) and NA as in the ME. In the course of history specific areas of 'land' belongs to a lot of people.
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and....a very unlucky woman(if they are one person as many suspect)
http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/extreme-makeover-beirut-edition.html
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Originally posted by jake3d
and....a very unlucky woman(if they are one person as many suspect)
http://drinkingfromhome.blogspot.com/2006/08/extreme-makeover-beirut-edition.html
The destruction , however, is not a makeover.
You should realize that.
Anyway, this is a private blogger who probably has too much time.
I see a scar/wrinkle on the second photo and a bump on the first.
Besides, whoever is doctoring the photos (if they are) has to be a real idiot.
First he/she is not doing a good job and sceondly with so much real death and destruction to go around, one doesnt need fake photos.
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Originally posted by jake3d
How far would you go? Approx 639 AD when the Arab muslims conquered Jerusalem or before that? We can play a nice game of who has the 'right' to the land. Each side will stop at the time exactly convenient to them. Then claim 'moral right' to whatever their cause.
Yeah, but the focus of the Jewish claim is not based on a certain time.
Its based on the claim that God gave them that land and they are the chosen people.
Cant argue with that.
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Originally posted by Dr B Hadad
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Originally posted by jake3d
How far would you go? Approx 639 AD when the Arab muslims conquered Jerusalem or before that? We can play a nice game of who has the 'right' to the land. Each side will stop at the time exactly convenient to them. Then claim 'moral right' to whatever their cause.
Yeah, but the focus of the Jewish claim is not based on a certain time.
Its based on the claim that God gave them that land and they are the chosen people.
Cant argue with that.
So what do you think is the right solution? Destroy Israel, Kill all jews and throw them into sea? Will you be happy with that?
I can't stand this hypocrisy - There are 57 Muslim Countries in this world (where the state religion is Islam) and they want to destroy one tiny little Jewish state where jews have lived for thousands of years (for your information Jews were there before Prophet Mohammed was born).
Israel has nukes. It is scary to think what will happen if Israel's existence is threatened by stupid Jihadi people in Middle East.
I guess there won't be any living being left in and around Jerusalem , Mecca or Tehran etc if there is a nuclear war in the middle east.
So probably that will finally solve all this Isarel - Palestine debate.
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Originally posted by Dr B Hadad
Yeah, but the focus of the Jewish claim is not based on a certain time.
Its based on the claim that God gave them that land and they are the chosen people.
Cant argue with that.
The Jews are as divided as any other race in terms of secular and orthodox. what you say maybe true for the Orthodox jews not for the rest. Your simplified assesment of the jewish claim is probably a result of propaganda rather than anything else.
Anyway, i'm not really interest in the jewish claim as such. I only see that a defeat of israel(even if its in the propaganda arena), is a boost to the islamic fundamentalists/supremacists.
The jewish supremacists currently do not pose a threat to the free world like the islamists ones. Try to see that I am not talking in terms of 'right' and 'wrong'....because I dont think its that simple. Its much simpler for me to figure out what the threat to my way of life is.
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