Propaganda and war


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-06 23:00:36

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr B Hadad


The destruction , however, is not a makeover.
You should realize that.




What exactly is your point? You seem to be keen on trying to show 'victims' and 'victimization' than anything else. Nasrallah declared 'open war' and I'm sure he knows what he meant by that. He will be happy to take responsiblity and stay on course just like the Israelis are. Or will he? :p . Did he think that innocents will not die? I dont think Olmert thinks that. Seems like the Israelis are ready to pay the price.

Why is Nasrallah and Iran trying to push for a 'ceasefire' now. Until more missiles can be shipped in via iran?

The nutjob of Iran has a 'final solution' he said it so himself(again). He just needs a ceasefire so his lackeys can regroup.

Olmert or even right wing Netenyahu do not pose as much a threat to the free countries like the Islamic supremacists. I dont think its jews who are bombing Mumbai, Spain, UK etc. The idea of it being a localised conflict does not wash anymore. Like Blair said...its a clash of value systems. Israel seems to be on the side of the west in this clash. Thats all that matters to me.


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Dr B Hadad   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 22
Location: shmocation

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-06 23:18:43

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d
What exactly is your point?



I meant what I said.
You whole purpose of starting this thread is to show that you are getting the wrong pictures and that media could be biased in its reporting.

But with your keen eye, you can notice both, the doctored and real parts of a photo, regardless of who is to blame for the death and destruction. If you hammer on one aspect of a photo, you are made to look biased, which is the beef you had in the first place.

Right or wrong?







Dr B Hadad   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 22
Location: shmocation

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-06 23:23:10

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Dr B Hadad   
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Posts: 22
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-08-06 23:25:44

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d
Your simplified assesment of the jewish claim is probably a result of propaganda rather than anything else.



Zionism encompasses both the left and the right.
Yes, there are left wing zionists too.
It is a movement to restore Jews to their spiritual homeland.
Why else would they move to such a tiny hole?


Propaganda not. It is widely accepted.



BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-06 00:06:27

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr B Hadad

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d
Your simplified assesment of the jewish claim is probably a result of propaganda rather than anything else.



Zionism encompasses both the left and the right.
Yes, there are left wing zionists too.
It is a movement to restore Jews to their spiritual homeland.
Why else would they move to such a tiny hole?

Propaganda not. It is widely accepted.



And the point is?


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Dr B Hadad   
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Posts: 22
Location: shmocation

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-06 00:11:58

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueLobster

And the point is?




What do you mean?

Did you read the other posts?




BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-08-06 00:20:20

Quote:
Originally posted by Dr B Hadad

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueLobster

And the point is?




What do you mean?

Did you read the other posts?




Yeah I did. Still can't get your point. Is it that every side uses Propaganda? Now that's hardly a revelation, in fact I think Jake mentioned that very fact in his initial posts.

So rather than spin our wheels, what would you like to see happen in the ME right now? What will peace cost?


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