Moving back to India.... How to maintain residentship status of Canada?


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7wonders   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-08 10:40:17

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Originally posted by meitsme

I am IT professional and planning to move back to India after citizenship of Canada. I also want to maintain residenship status (legal way) of Canada to become eligible for health and CCTB beniftis.

Reasons for moving back to India:
1) Do not wish to do Job for whole life and pay mortgage for house in Canada.
2) Want to do bussiness and can not efford in Canada
3) Do not like winter
4) Missing family and festivals

I have registerd software company in Canada but I am not working sincerely for my own company. I am thinking to work in India for my own canadian company. I'll generate revenue on name of my canadian company. I'll also pay tax in canada at the end of year.

Is this okay to maintain my residentship status in Canada? OR what should I suppose to do to maintain residentship status of Canada while living in India?

All kind of inputs are welcome.

Thanks in advance.




You can't get all health benefits. OHIP holders out of ontario or Canada will get benefit only its emergency situation like accidents or attack and in your situation they won't I guess check OHIP policy.
If you think you don't want to live in canada then why do you want to maintain status ? it is legal issue but not ethical ..You guys are just saking canadian system..its better to go back


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mkannuri   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-08 13:59:39

Quote:
Originally posted by 7wonders

Quote:
Originally posted by meitsme

I am IT professional and planning to move back to India after citizenship of Canada. I also want to maintain residenship status (legal way) of Canada to become eligible for health and CCTB beniftis.

Reasons for moving back to India:
1) Do not wish to do Job for whole life and pay mortgage for house in Canada.
2) Want to do bussiness and can not efford in Canada
3) Do not like winter
4) Missing family and festivals

I have registerd software company in Canada but I am not working sincerely for my own company. I am thinking to work in India for my own canadian company. I'll generate revenue on name of my canadian company. I'll also pay tax in canada at the end of year.

Is this okay to maintain my residentship status in Canada? OR what should I suppose to do to maintain residentship status of Canada while living in India?

All kind of inputs are welcome.

Thanks in advance.




You can't get all health benefits. OHIP holders out of ontario or Canada will get benefit only its emergency situation like accidents or attack and in your situation they won't I guess check OHIP policy.
If you think you don't want to live in canada then why do you want to maintain status ? it is legal issue but not ethical ..You guys are just saking canadian system..its better to go back



Hi CD's.
Thanks for starting this informatic thread.
Once again i do respect every ones views on this matter. I wanted to share my 2 cents on this topic.

First of all i appreciate the decision of "meitsme" of taking advantage of the two systems "Legally".
My comment: I dont see any harm in his thinking (like CcTB or other benefits) as long as he maintaining canadian residency and paying taxes. (you can be anywhere in the world..as long as you are working for canadian company and paying taxes).

I dont see any point..why cannot he take the benefits of being canadian when he paying taxes (contributing...leaving one job slot in canada for others...).

I totally agree with his plan and encourage him to do so where he gets peace and happyness.

It's normal behavior of any humans changing their thoughts over period of time and looking forward for better life (monitary or mental).
Once an individual fulfills his monitary needs, he/she should go after mental peace.
In his case, he is expecting peace/happiness by going there but keeping his monitary options open in canada.

First we are focused on "Survival"..that happend while we are in back home.
Second, once we survived, we want "luxaries/betterment of life"...that happend when we moved to western countires (N.America/Europe)
Third, once we experience so called luxaries, now we want "peace/happiness"...that is nothing but going back to home country where u came from...

During the above 3 phases..we all try to be legitimate and honest...but we will follow the path that is suitable/convenient at that time.

Conclusion: I believe "meitsme" is in 3rd phase and excersing his options legally..when he is desperate ...who knows what he will do :-)..After all we are all humans and nobody is perfect...

Rgds
MRK


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chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-08 19:02:35

I think most of you guys are getting confused between the resident status as per tax laws, and resident as per citizenship and immigration laws. The first relates to various financial attachments with the country while the latter is purely relating to physical presence.

OHIP and CCTB require physical presence resident status and not ITax resident status.

Which means you can be a tax resident and paying all Canadian taxes, but still not be entitled to benefits like OHIP and CCTB etc.


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meitsme   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-08 19:34:23

mkannuri,
Thanks for your opinion. You are absolutely right.

Chandresh,
Would you please post the link which indicates the physical presence is require for CCTB?

Thanks,
meitsme


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chandresh   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-01-08 20:53:23

The below link gives the rules of CCTB and surprisingly it mentions that one should be resident for tax purposes, and that negates my earlier statement of physical presence.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4114/t4114-07e.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4114/t4114-07e.pdf</a>

See point 3 on page 7 mentions: You must be a resident of Canada for tax purposes, and then defines residency as sufficient ties with Canada, which is true.


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mkannuri   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-01-08 09:45:03

Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh

The below link gives the rules of CCTB and surprisingly it mentions that one should be resident for tax purposes, and that negates my earlier statement of physical presence.



Thank you chandreshji.

I believe meitsme got all the answers, if you still have some please PM me as i am on the same boat but with different path and priorities.

My case is I am leaving sufficient amount in my incorporation and will be drawing salary and paying taxes every year even though i am in india.

All my revenues (expecting thru business) and properties made in INDIA will be on my wifes (she will be PR for this purpose) accounts and taxes will be paid in india.
this way i am maintaining both countries statuses and paying taxes on both of them and keeping my options open in both of them.

My aimed goal is to spend winter time in india and summers in canada as long as circumstences permits.

I am also considering of buying residence and renting it out, so that when ever i am in this country i dont have to rent again for short term and rent will go towards the mortagage. Not sure how far it will work out...but exercising towards this options aswell.

Once again thank you all for sharing your opinions and advises.
"meitsme"..please keep in touch and keep us updates with your successes.

cheers:-)
MRK


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mkannuri   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-08-08 00:08:13

Quote:
Originally posted by meitsme

mkannuri,
Thanks for your opinion. You are absolutely right.

Chandresh,
Would you please post the link which indicates the physical presence is require for CCTB?

Thanks,
meitsme




Hello CD's
It's been really a pleasure being a member of this charcha and now it's time to move on with my plans that we discussed several times.
I became and citizen recently and waiting for my OCI. I am planning to implement my first phase of the plan of moving to india in october first week.
I will keep you guys posted with my experiences in maintaining both the systems.

rgds
MRK


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