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Orginally posted by deepcb

I had explained in my earliesr posts....SUCCESS in canada.....

1. Skilled workers - Carpenters, Welders, Mechnics, X ray Technicians, Trailer drivers, Crane operators etc coming from India......90% SUCCESS

2. Highly Highly skilled - Rocket Scientists, Ph. D Bio Tech Research, FRCS Doctors, Main Frme level prog. with IBM etc - 90% SUCCESS

3. Normal Graduate : People doing normal clerical jobs in India - if you are happy to work in call centres, small stores and shopping malls - 70% SUCCESS

4. Professional : Engineers, CA, Marketing Analyst....If you are holding good positions in India, getting good salaries having good standard of living and if you are 35+ then SUCCESS rate is 20%

Now its upto you to figure out where you belong......
Self employed and entreprenuers are exempted..

Deep

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I am also looking for an exit to other desitnations from Canada.

I can't work in factories for ever.

Everyone should look for this i believe if you have good job or bad..just find out an alternative as you never know when you will fall in trouble in this country...nothing is predictable here.

Be ware of 3 W here..

WORK, WEATHER AND WOMEN ..they are very unpredictable in Canada and can change very often..

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Be ware of 3 W here..

WORK, WEATHER AND WOMEN ..they are very unpredictable in Canada and can change very often..


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I don't agree with that 3rd "W"

This mount to unwarranted attack on women on the basis of gender! ****

welcome break from a rather serious discussion,

" As she ( the woman ) is UNPREDICTABLE and driven by unknown forces, climatologists have named typhoons and hurricanes after this UNPREDICTABLE creature that is said to possess the power to destroy all that is in her path "


you right esmailp - they also posess compassion, love, warmth .... anyways i am inexperienced in this matter , if there suppose to be some unpredictability , I will accept that too ...

unpredictablity is cool, predicability is boring !

It s very surprising to find the debate going on about the reality of immigrants in Canada.If it has been realised by at least 90% of the CD folks that it is a govt scam going on then what are we going to do?

1If we reduce our migratiion thenthe same willbe filled in by the immigrants from other countries so do not think of doing the same.Instead let s find out a method to inform our brethren s about the reqmt of skilled workers and not skilled professionals.CD can design good stuff and post it on net and send to various news papers in India to print so that the general public is not misguided.

2.The question why people come despite reading all the stuff on CD is because they do not believe you.CD has to provide a lot of e mail addresses and phone nos t confirm that the info provide is really true and can be cross referenced.

3. After the above two CD also should form a list of organisation and persons who encourage multiculturalism and are in the position of giving employments to people coming to this country and i would suggest that also include the pakis in this game plan.

4. Also find out a list of organisation who do not encourage multicultalism and indulge in racism and create a separate page for posting their name and also find out a way of informing those organisation about their coming on the negative file.This way we can use our collective bargaining power .

5. Rght now i can pinpoint one organisation which is indulging in such activity and that is " Princess Auto"- a shop fr industrial tools .So from today let all desis pledge to boycott this shop till they employ atleast one desi in their shop and the same is visible to every body.

6.Also itis suggested that there is a network among all the desi news papers like voice etc so that such news can be widely published .

Last we must all remember that united we stand and divided we fall.

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Is there any statistics on what percentage of people really make to Canada out of total PR applications? We know the total count of successful applicants is about 225k a year. We don’t know how many has applied and failed to reach Canada on various reasons. Things may change in 4 years of processing time for a person/family applying from India and that individual/family may abandon the plan of immigration altogether. Surely there are unsuccessful applicants as well. We have to consider that the authorities are charging $550/- per applicant and a small family of 4 is paying $1400/- in processing fees. ($550/- each for adult and $150/- each for kids).

All $$$ for the authorities! Good for Canadian Economy!

Relevant Article , most likely written by a gora.



http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.php?story=20040702163651492

Canada's immigration problem

Monday, July 05 2004 @ 10:36 AM MDT
Contributed by: abacus
Views: 937


Immigration is a subject that very few commentators dare approach, for fear of being branded a racist or worse. As a result, any reasonable debate on this issue is nipped in the bud.


However, I think it is high time that Canada addressed the immigration issue with a good dose of realism, because this country is suffering and so are many of the immigrants living here.

One of the more pressing problems is the recognition of foreign credentials. Too many Ph.D.’s, M.D.’s, etc. have to work as janitors or taxi drivers, because our current immigration system has misrepresented the facts to these people.

Under the points system, a medical doctor would get the top score for qualifications. However, upon arrival in Canada, this new immigrant would find out immediately that his qualifications are not recognized, despite having been given the top score, and that he would have to return to medical school for a considerable number of years.

It would appear, therefore, that our government is misleading and lying to potential immigrants around the world.

While the current immigration system is frustrating for many of today’s immigrants, it also places a heavy burden on Canadian society. Canada takes in immigrants, whose full potential cannot be realized under the current system, thus forcing these people into desperate situations. Some of them, with a less stable character, may and will turn to crime to support themselves and their families, and that creates more problems for our citizens.

Then, there is another problem: that of language. Under our immigration laws, immigrants have to show that they can speak, read and write English and/or French at a functional level. However, the issue of language is often ignored in today’s applications, and that is why we end up with people who are, in fact, functional illiterates – regardless of whether they are doctors, engineers or whatever.

Such immigrants, naturally, turn to menial jobs, but even there, the lack of language skills creates problems in the workplace and beyond.

I know a woman from New Brunswick, who lives and works in Toronto. She works at a factory that assembles chairs – the aluminium kind with a padded seat and back. She is the only “real” Canadian at that factory. Her co-workers don’t speak English or only very little English. She says that the company has problems with orders and products all the time, because their workers cannot even follow the simplest of instructions. And nobody seems to care, not even the unions. As a result, productivity and morale are very low at that factory, which, in its own way, also has repercussions for the economy and society as a whole. In this case, for example, some operations, like payroll, have now been outsourced to the States, because it was felt that the local resources were insufficient. In other words, jobs have been lost to the USA in this case.

In light of all these problems, I propose the following program:

1. The government should stop lying to potential immigrants around the world. Do not make them believe that there is a job waiting for them here, just because they have an M.D. Revise the points system and ensure that only applicants are admitted that actually have something to contribute to Canada (mind you, I am only talking about immigrants, not refugees. Refugees must be dealt with under international law and the Canadian charter. Immigrants, however, are not people fleeing from persecution or torture, which is why we need to screen them more carefully and ensure that Canada can actually benefit from these newcomers).

2. Language skills must become a top priority. Even the best brain surgeon in the world is no good to us here in Canada, if he cannot speak English and/or French.

3. Immigrants, once they have landed in Canada, must be subjected to mandatory language testing after the first six months. Those that pass will see their immigration status finalized; those that fail must go in for language classes and will be tested again after another six months. If they fail again, their status should be revoked.

4. The recognition of foreign credentials must be streamlined and accelerated. Instead of forcing immigrants back to school, the various professional bodies must provide their own training so as to upgrade newcomers’ skills and to bring them in line with Canadian expectations. For example, coming back to lawyers, the Law Society must provide individual-study programs for foreign-trained lawyers to help them achieve a Canadian level of the law. I also firmly believe that these programs should be paid for by the professional bodies themselves, with some assistance by the federal government.

Canada has such a huge potential that is just waiting to be harvested. Right now, we have our apartment buildings cleaned by doctors and have ourselves chauffeured to the airport by university professors and engineers. At the same time, more and more Canadians are becoming frustrated with having to deal with people that do not speak any of our official languages. This affects our society and, in the business world, our productivity.

Now is the time to act, to unlock that enormous potential that has been slumbering in Canada.