Should I apply directly to CIC or through a consultant
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Posted on: 05-04-05 12:44:29
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Orginally posted by pratickm
I don't understand this replusion and hatred against immigration consultants - what's so wrong about immigration lawyers/consultants?
Nothing wrong with them. I agree on their need when someone needs help to get out of a fix or when a technical snag causes problems. Their requirement is justified if your case is out of the ordinary and expert guidance is needed.
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Orginally posted by pratickm
You can similarly prepare your own taxes, fix your own car, decide what medicines to take to cure yourself, and so on.
That is very sweeping and unwarranted statement.
Yes, I can indeed prepare my taxes, fix my car and also decide what medication I have to take, as long as the issue is simple and straightforward.
I do prepare my taxes successfully because there are no complications to my return. But if I was in business or whatever that made my tax returns complicated, then I would certainly take help of a tax consultant.
I do not go to an auto mechanic to top up my lube or having my wiper blades changed.
I do not need to go to a doctor for a simple headache
It is the same with immigration.
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Quote:Funny you say that, because I thought the same about your statement that anyone who uses an immigration lawyer should not immigrate !
Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
That is very sweeping and unwarranted statement.
Is that not a sweeping and unwarranted statement?
Quote:So it finally boils down to an individual situation and comfort level.
I do not go to an auto mechanic to top up my lube or having my wiper blades changed.
I do not need to go to a doctor for a simple headache
It is the same with immigration.
You do not go to an auto mechanic for some things you consider simple - but you would go to him for things you don't consider simple.
Another person may not go to the mechanic for the same thing - it is a highly individualised situation and comfort level.
How about if I made the statement that anyone who goes to an auto mechanic should not drive a car?
It's the same deal - very subjective and individual dependent.
And just as there are rogue auto mechanics, there are rogue immigration lawyers.
And just so you know - I was not directing my comments to you personally, but in general to several posts and previous threads where immigration lawyers were bashed as being useless and fradulent.
And it is not just this forum - in other immigration groups and the UseNet, people routinely bash immigration lawyers - maybe because they charge such big fees.
But the same people don't complain when the auto mechanic charges $500 for fixing a headlight bulb or for giving a wax polish.
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By the way, please check the Citizenship & Immigration Canada website which has brought a new law into effect that one cannot hire a "representative" or in other words, a consultant to help out in the immigration process unless that person is a attorney or a firm approved by the Canadian Bar Association. So I guess one cannot go through any "consultant" but only an approved professional accredited and certified by the CBA. This came into effect March 2004. Please check, if I'm not wrong!!
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You can similarly prepare your own taxes, fix your own car, decide what medicines to take to cure yourself, and so on.
Therefore, one should never have the need for the services of an accountant, an auto mechanic, a doctor and so on.
hahaha ,
taxes at the max you pay 150 or 200 bucks , I cannot fix a Car not even a flat tyre, Medicens I have no knowledge or expertise and I cannot,
But Immigration Forms Yes I can fill them , I can read the Guide and fix the form accordingly ,
I can book my own ticket on a website or fill a reservation form , I don't need middle men here ,
Also why the hell would one waste 2000 bucks if he has a stragiht forward application ?
When ever you add a laweyer or agency there is one more layer you are adding and it takes more time to process,
In my honest opinion it should be very easy to file the application yourself,
If you have any Questions there are many in the fourm who are willing to help,
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Orginally posted by me2canada
By the way, please check the Citizenship & Immigration Canada website which has brought a new law into effect that one cannot hire a "representative" or in other words, a consultant to help out in the immigration process unless that person is a attorney or a firm approved by the Canadian Bar Association. So I guess one cannot go through any "consultant" but only an approved professional accredited and certified by the CBA. This came into effect March 2004. Please check, if I'm not wrong!!
This is not true. You can also hire consultants who are members of "CSIC" (www.csic-scci.ca). The list of all active and suspended members can be consulted by public. It should also be noted that the membership is extended to an "individual" and not to a 'company". Therefore, if you are contacting any immigration consulting firm, make sure you have the name of the CSIC member who is working/representing that firm and cross check on the website.
regarding whether you should seek help of an immigration consultant or not, it depends on an individual. If you think you have the time and energy and patience to deal with it yourself, sure go ahead by all means...However, if your time is more valuable to you and you can acomplish/earn more (than what you would pay the consultant) in the time saved by hiring one , then it is worth it.
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Quote:Sure, and there are many "forums" where you can ask medical advice - would you?
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In my honest opinion it should be very easy to file the application yourself,
If you have any Questions there are many in the fourm who are willing to help,
Also, there are many "forums" where you can ask for advice on how to fix a car.
Then, why can't you just use "forums" for everything?
Also, just take a look at the "Ask Immigration Expert" section of this website - that alone will tell you how "easy" it is to complete the immigration process.
Every day, there are several posts asking for legal advice.
Some are simple questions, and some are fairly complex.
I guess the point I am trying to make is that if something (fixing a car or filing immigration) is simple for you, it does not mean that it is the same for another person.
You may be well versed with all the nuances of immigration law, but can't change your wipers and can't file your taxes.
That doesn't mean that immigration consultants are useless, or auto mechaics are useless or CPAs are useless.
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Orginally posted by pratickm
Funny you say that, because I thought the same about your statement that anyone who uses an immigration lawyer should not immigrate !
My comment was directed primarily at people who have a very straightforward case of immigration, but still pay huge amounts to immigration consultants who do nothing that they themselves could not have done.
The op appears to be someone who is not even contemplating trying to do things on his own.
A person who is so scared/confused that he does not even try to go thro the process himself is quite likely to face severe problems after coming here.
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Orginally posted by pratickmSo it finally boils down to an individual situation and comfort level.
True. I am sorry if I sound harsh, but more than that, what does it say about a person who has a straight case but is too scared/confused to even attempt filing on his own?
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Orginally posted by pratickm
How about if I made the statement that anyone who goes to an auto mechanic should not drive a car?
Wrong analogy. Look at it like this. I have to go from Point A to Point B. There is a map available on the counter that gives complete details. There is also a man sitting there who charges Rs 10,000 and offers to read the map and tell me how to get there. I choose the second alternative.
What impression of myself do I convey?
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