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Sept. 24.

There is very little point in Canada accepting 100,000 more new immigrants a year if we are to treat them the way we currently do.

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Nicholas Brooks, Toronto

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Public should have say on immigration

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Sept. 24.

It's amazing how the closer we get to a federal election, the greater the noise made about increasing immigration to Canada.

Please understand that I'm not looking to throw water on the reasoning, only asking Canadians citizens to look deeply at what's really needed for Canada, rather than listening to politicians who possibly are lobbying for their survival prior to an upcoming election.

Similar to the pre-election action of rapidly handing out taxpayers' money, politicians also use the immigration issue as a heartfelt pre-election magnet. They clearly chase the immigrant vote. Yet, are we not all immigrants to Canada and should we not all have our say?

In regards to recent statements by Prime Minister Paul Martin and Immigration Minister Joe Volpe that Canada has a growing shortage of skilled workers, we need to really question what has been going on with our colleges and universities in this regard.

These institutions are heavily supported by taxpayers and are clearly mandated to detect early these skill-set gaps and then to meet these needs by effectively developing curriculum and training Canadians. Have we possibly spent this money unwisely and if so, where is the accountability? No doubt, like 100 years ago, Canada still needs people who can not only support themselves but help to grow Canada, too.

We urgently need more environmentally-conscious farmers to help lessen our dependence on importation of transportation-expensive food products. Doing this would clearly lessen the need for more truck drivers required to haul goods.

We also need environmentally-conscious urban planners so that we can quickly migrate from the path that we are currently on with outward urban sprawl to much more effective thinking. We need forward-thinking planners, not just map makers.

We need immigration in Canada, but let Canadians have a say in the skill sets required, not just the politicians — for honestly look at what they have done to date


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Bob Beyette, Campbellville, Ont.

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Some parts of GTA like Third World




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Public should have say on immigration


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Letter, Sept. 26.

I fully support letter writer Bob Beyette's stand on immigration policy. Some parts of the GTA look very much like slums in a Third World country. Some of the chosen immigrants survive solely on welfare and public assistance. I am personally aware of more abuses of the immigration laws. Do we need this?

The citizens of this country ought to have a say in this matter of immigration and not the politicians who always seem to have a hidden agenda and apply it as a carrot during elections.


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Sam Mohareb, Mississauga


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Aur apla desi ka reply- at least by name apun thinking desi hai:


Place immigrants already in Canada




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Sept. 24.

Personally, I think the government's priority should be to place the immigrants already here in professions that are conterminous with their skills and qualifications and not concentrate on beefing up the quota for new immigrants.

I am sure if the government looks hard enough, it will find enough people already here in Canada and steer them to fill up the industry needs in Edmonton, Calgary, Fort McMurray, Sault Ste. Marie and other places.

Sure, the Liberals should open up the sluice gates for more immigrants, but unless the current immigration policy is radically changed to ensure that skills of the incoming permanent residents match those in short supply here, we will end up, as is the present case, admitting doctors, engineers and other highly-qualified professionals to drive the 6,000 long-haul trucks lying idle in New Brunswick.


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Lachman Balani, Brampton

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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.

Puru,

Apla opinion mein, yeh articles and letters about immigration, even though making for interesting reading, ekdum not making headway to convincing gorement and professional associations to change their 'errant' ways.
Yeh memorandum you having drafted, you must to be going to press, The Star, The Sun, Globe and Mail, National Post and having published there as open letter to gorement.
Yahaan ka press very powerful. Gorement to satisfy media will move to take some positive steps as a start. You and those who signing petition must ensure that definite steps are taken not khaali false promises. Nothing like more funding for this and that and adrak aur lasoon, but to make current orientation and settlement programs more effective and to putting pressure on professional bodies to accept foreign credentials and giving jobs to qualified pros.
Ek aadmi to likhaa hai above letters mein, that Canadians going to India for treatment, to why not get that Indian doctor to practicing here instead of to having him yaan her to go thru 'brainless' re-qualification process. Wohi doctor India mein Canadian ka ilaaj kar sakta hai to why not here?
Ekdum if you are hammering gorement from press side, from councillors side, from riding reps side, matlab upar se, niche se, backside se, frontside se, sideways se ekdum you are taking blitzkrieg attitude relentlessly, something will give. Not just hitting from one flank, lakin ekdum surround strategy.
Chal, yeh bahut lambaa conversation ho sakta hai, cannot to be covered in one post.

Achaa, doosri baat, according to memorandum, jitna apna samaj hai angrezi ka, it is seeming u r wanting those pros who have not finding jobs in their capacity to come forward. What about those jo have found already something after months/years but who wanting to sign so that future mein immigrant professionals can assimilate into work force faster.

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The way I understand it is that ALBERTA is red hot now.
Calgary, Edmonton , Ft McMurray all need skilled people and fast.

Short of going there , how can one find out about the actual requirements?
(i.e. White collar, blue collar, unskilled, service industry).

I started a thread about this in another forum i visit , where there are a few Canadians. I have asked them some questions and put in my comments , which are same as what I have said here.
The replies are not too many, but some interesting points are made.
Should give you an idea of what a Canadian thinks of such problems.
My impression of their comments being they dont really care that much.


If Puru or anyone else wants a link to that thread , let me know.

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Chal, hit us with the link to that thread.

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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.

Arey reading Toronto Sun editorial on immie policy:

http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/Commentary/2005/09/27/1236859.html



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As a federal election approaches, Prime Minister Paul Martin and his government are promising to raise immigration levels ... again.

We say again because hiking immigration levels to 1% of the Canadian population annually -- or about 328,000 people per year -- has been a Liberal election promise ever since the 1993 Liberal Red Book, co-authored by Martin.

But in the real world, the Liberals have never come close.

Last year Canada accepted about 235,000 immigrants. This latest plan would boost that by 40% within five years.

As is typical with these annoucements by Martin, it came out of the blue. Last week in a "vision" speech to senior Ottawa civil servants, Martin suddenly announced that boosting immigration levels is back on as a Liberal priority.


Within days, Immigration Minister Joe Volpe chimed in that Canadians everywhere are demanding higher immigration levels to help boost economic growth and that he has a plan.

Right. It amazes us that these guys can keep a straight face while feeding us this cheap political spin.

First off, this is clearly just another Liberal bid to attract ethnic votes leading up to the next election.

Second, before the Liberals boost immigration levels, they need to fix the immigration system we have, which is a mess. Actually, it's an immigration and refugee system, one that federal Auditor General Sheila Fraser reported in 2003 had lost track of 36,000 failed refugee claimants.

Third, this half-baked announcement is precisely what's wrong with how immigration policy is set. It's imposed by Ottawa, without considering the impact on cities.

Any sudden influx of new immigrants will most directly affect Toronto, followed by Montreal and Vancouver, where most immigrants settle, despite Ottawa's always vague musings about spreading immigration around.

Given this reality, who's going to pay for the extra English as a second language teachers who will be needed in and around Toronto as a result of this federal decision?

Who's going to pay for the needed settlement services? Who's going to make sure there's adequate housing?

Paul? Joe? Anyone...? We're waiting.
Next story: EDITORIAL: Gun registry: 10 years of waste

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hinglish zindabad

Yeh loh: Another letter in Sun- also by desi- lagta hai same hai jiska letter Star may print hua hai.


http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/Letters/2005/09/27/1236860.html

Utilize immigrants' skills

Re "Volpe wants 40% more immigrants," (Sept. 24). That's all we need, more able people being underemployed. I think the government's priority should be to place the immigrants already here in professions that are conterminous with their qualifications. I am sure they will find willing people already here to fill up the industry needs wherever required. Sure, they should open the gates for more immigrants, but unless the current policy is radically changed to ensure that the skills of the new incoming residents match those needed here, we will end up, as is the present case, admitting doctors, engineers and other highly qualified professionals to drive the 6,000 long-haul trucks lying idle in New Brunswick.

Lachman Balani

Brampton

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Actually same letter lagta hai, khali Editors may having different ways of editing.

Ek fancy word 'conterminous' daalaa to 2 newspapers mein print hogaya.
Maybe also printed in Globe and Mail, National Post?

Maybe lesson here, Puru. Ekdum you also incorporating in long memo, 3-4 yaan 5-6 fancy unusual words to maybe people sitting up in seat and noticing. bahut saaraa putting then maybe boring peoples.
Just idea giving- unsure of impact lakin.
What others opine?

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