hey mister india "regretably canadian",

ur name on canadian desi shows how much u care bout the place where u put in. OK. NOW U DAMM SHIT UR MOUTH, AND LISTEN
don't try to create differences among desis here by commenting unnecessary on posts, it seems u r an educated person, So I request u to please read my posts carefully before passing comment on the. At any moment I had never humilated any desi here, I welcome there comments and thats y I posts open thread here. but now I am going to fire on ur stupid thinking and in advance I apology from all the desis reading this posts OK.
I say the thing "Why don’t you leave Canada if you do not like it?" cause people like u, who eat, sleep, live and wash here, still curse canada. and when it comes to INDIA they stand tall and say otheres that " y u r talking bad bout INDIA". man now this is the place where we live, and canada is giving us everything, it is taking care of our kids, so IF U STILL DON'T LIKE THIS PLACE THEN PLEASE MOVE UR ASS OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. ok
I still doubt about the thing u are talking bout, I got a good job and many of persons known to me are very well settled here. the thing is they had changed themself and not like u, who always feel "let down" by others.

yes sometimes, when their is a need that we compare situations with INDIA, u know y? to open the eyes of people like u, that please stop cursing canada every moment and see their are also success stories here of our fellow desis.

and listen mr " regretably canadian", dogs are even better then u, atleast they love the place where they live and eat. so put the shit in ur mouth and shut up, and let others discuss the points here in good manner. and stop blaming us, blame urself for ur failure in this country OK.

sorry to all other desis here, but what can one do. In every posts of my thread I asked not to go personal on any issue and not to create differences, and I request u to please posts ur thoughts here. but people like these "regretably canadian" try to create tension in the open threads as they are BIG NUTTS.
so forget all this and please discuss the things related to the thread, I won't mind answering u or others and as major population I found on this site is facing problem in Canada. we should find a solution for it instead of blaming the system or me or crenshew here. I am happy here so I don't see anything bad in the canadian system either, but yes for all my fellow brothers I am ready to discuss the solution of problem faced by asians.

and ginni this is especially for u
u said :- "Please try to understand the pain of a professional who was living happiliy in India now working in labour job with illiterate punjabis."

U know ginni, punjabis are living in this country from way back 1897. U call them "illeterate", but they are the people I found here are living happy then people who u will call well educated. and the reason for their living happy on this land is that they love to do work with their hands and are quick learner. have u been to Brampton? U will see good porshe house of only punjabis and not anybody else. the reason being, they contribute in the economy of the country where they live. they love the place where they are living, they don't curse canada. i had hundreds of punjabis who have acres of land in this area, and are doing well in their buisness. now comes the questions of "illetracy", I know few of the punjabis living here are not very educated, but that doesn't mean that they don't have enough knowledge. tell me what will u prefer, earning 10000$ monthly by doing something like running a truck or maybe farming or u prefer earn 5000$ monthly by doing a white collar job?
maybe u will say now that doing a white collar job, but think again? and u will get the reply.
So I advice u ginni, not to call any community "illetrate". and start adopting urself in this place, as u might make good friends inbetween them and they can help u in one way or other. Punjabis have big heart, and that I had already seen. when I came here, punjabi uncle who runs a gas station, gave me a room on rent, and never took rent for it. and I found that the reason punjabi are succesfull is because they make good humans and adapt themself to the change, doesn't matter where they are living.

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So I advice u ginni, not to call any community "illetrate". and start adopting urself in this place, as u might make good friends inbetween them and they can help u in one way or other. Punjabis have big heart, and that I had already seen. when I came here, punjabi uncle who runs a gas station, gave me a room on rent, and never took rent for it. and I found that the reason punjabi are succesfull is because they make good humans and adapt themself to the change, doesn't matter where they are living.

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Fortunately no. But if you read newspaper as I do, you will find ppl. being let off from sentences on the grounds of mental illnesses etc.

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Chal Saxena Dada ka article mila: Kya nahin kiyela hai yeh aadmi. Some peoples tolding maybe backed by CIA. Kya pata

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Canadian lifestyles of the rich and infamous


Authorities and investors around the world would love to get their hands on Rakesh Saxena




By David Baines


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A painfully slow extradition process and a comfortable house-arrest provision have enabled financial fugitive Rakesh Saxena to wreak havoc on securities investors from his Vancouver-area home.

A just-released forensic report filed in B.C. Supreme Court says Saxena — who is wanted by Thai authorities for allegedly embezzling $88 million from Bangkok Bank of Commerce — helped orchestrate an international stock sales scheme that cost overseas investors millions of dollars.

Investors, most of whom are located in Britain, were directed to send their money “in trust” to a Vancouver law firm, Martin & Associates. The forensic report says $18.4 million of investors’ money was funnelled into the law firm and disbursed, mainly on Saxena’s instructions, including $500,000 to his mother and $1.6 million to the law firm.
Investors, meanwhile, have filed dozens of affidavits claiming they did not get their shares or, if they did, the certificates are essentially worthless.

Saxena, 53, has been holed up in Canada since July 1996, when he was arrested in Whistler, B.C., at the behest of Thai authorities who want him extradited to answer for his alleged crimes in their country. He hired a high-profile lawyer and raised every possible objection, including a claim that, if he is returned to Thailand, he will be extra-judicially killed as a scapegoat for the bank’s failure.

In November 2003, the Canadian government finally ordered his extradition, but Saxena appealed to the B.C. Court of Appeal. The appeal is scheduled to be heard in September. Saxena has already indicated that, if he loses, he will appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, which may drag out the case for two more years.

After his initial arrest, Saxena was freed on bail, but that bail was revoked after he allegedly attempted to obtain a phony passport and threatened a witness. In January 1998, he managed to persuade B.C. Supreme Court Judge Wally Oppal (now the province’s attorney general) to approve a novel form of house arrest:
Saxena would pay $40,000 for private security guards to keep him confined at his luxury False Creek condo. It was an arrangement that would save taxpayers money, but remove any incentive to expedite the extradition process.

Saxena was now free to pursue his business interests. One was a bauxite prospect in Sierra Leone, which he wanted to vend into a Vancouver Stock Exchange company. However, his plans were upset when Sierra Leone’s president, Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, who had granted the mineral licence, was deposed by rebel forces.

Saxena began negotiating with a South
Africa-based mercenary force, called Executive Outcomes, to get Kabbah back in power. However, plans were put on hold when word of the counter-coup leaked out.
Many Canadians expressed shock that someone who was the subject of an extradition proceeding could plot Third World coups, but Saxena coolly noted there was nothing in the terms of his house arrest that prevented him from doing so.

He also became involved in floating dubious stock issues on the loosely regulated OTC Bulletin Board in the U.S. When the stocks imploded, he left huge unsatisfied debts at local brokerage houses. At least four of the brokerage firms filed lawsuits against him, but Saxena contends that many of them were active participants in the deals and have not been anxious to press their claims.

From 2001 to 2003, Saxena helped arrange for boiler-room operators in Spain, South Africa and Belgium to sell millions of dollars of stock that hadn’t been listed on any exchange to investors in Britain and Europe.
When they didn’t get their shares, investors — who had sent their money “in trust” to Martin & Associates — filed complaints with the B.C. Law Society, which began an investigation.

In October 2003, a custodian was appointed to take over the law practice and the firm’s two principal partners, Jack Martin and Craig Iwata, were to resign. In July 2004, they formally admitted to trust account irregularities and agreed not to reapply for membership for 10 years.

Saxena is still residing in his gilded cage, now a $693,000 rented house in Richmond, B.C., and is free to pursue whatever business dealings he wishes. He says he is confident he will win his extradition fight and would like to become a citizen of Canada, which does not seem to object to its residents plotting military coups or dealing worthless stock. IE



Anybody knowing about this case and how it is unfolding? Supposedly to go to hearing in September. Any BC wallahs here?

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(I say the thing "Why don’t you leave Canada if you do not like it?" cause people like u, who eat, sleep, live and wash here, still curse canada. and when it comes to INDIA they stand tall and say otheres that " y u r talking bad bout INDIA". man now this is the place where we live, and canada is giving us everything, it is taking care of our kids, so IF U STILL DON'T LIKE THIS PLACE THEN PLEASE MOVE UR ASS OUT OF THIS COUNTRY.)


I just want to comment about this section, as the rest of the quote wasn't even readable, u should understand that there are women around here too.

CANADA IS NOT FEEDING US. Everyone who complain about the life here is working hard to put the food on table & bring shelter to their family & I mean hard means really hard that Indian laborers also don't work that hard, when all those came here are professionals. I am talking for all those Indians who are here with their degrees & are frustrated here. you don't have to say anything to me as I've what you call 'white collar job' & still I am leaving for India.

Canada is not giving us everything that we deserve & everyone agree on that.

If Canada was taking care of us till we get some decent jobs then I'd agreed with you have said 'Canada is giving us everything'.

The cleanliness we get as we pay huge tax for that, so what are they really doing for us?

yeah indian_immigrant, I fired on that stupid " regretably_canadian" for his posting, which is just creating differences among desis here. and I apologied for my words in advance. and for ur kind information there is nothing written for what u call "NOT READABLE".
u said Canada is not feeding us, this way no country feeds his citizens or PR's. you need a nanny or a caretaker, if u call feeding in terms of putting food in ur mouth.
Canada has given us an oppurtunity to be part of it. Now its upto us, how we use it or not.
tax u r talking bout, can't u see the return in terms of medical insuarance, children education, retirement fund, all being given to u through this tax return.
what u think u deserve?
first list out the things u deserve, and give them to the govt here. that u want these things and if they can provide u then only u r willing to stay otherwise TATA.
it is good thing that u r leaving back to india (now don't take it personal), I am saying this cause it will just gives the oppurtunity to people who think that canada has given them something in life. maybe ur white collar position will be filled by some new, well wisher immigrant of canada.
I like to say few lines to all u people here,

we should not be like wax, which melt when kept near flames.
we should be like iron man, who know how to strugle in life.

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(for ur kind information there is nothing written for what u call "NOT READABLE". )

---You mention yourself as educated..you know what is readable & what is not.


(u said Canada is not feeding us, this way no country feeds his citizens or PR's. you need a nanny or a caretaker, if u call feeding in terms of putting food in ur mouth. )

----Even after you are a professional & you need to do labor work to feed ourselves, it itself defines what I mean.

(Canada has given us an oppurtunity to be part of it. Now its upto us, how we use it or not.)

----We didn't ask for an opportunity to be a part of Canada, we were looking for opportunities to suit our education & profession. You are one of those guys who live with a dream of going to foreign country at any cost & you have gotten that opportunity so you are just so proud of yourself that you don't know what you are saying.

(tax u r talking bout, can't u see the return in terms of medical insuarance, children education, retirement fund, all being given to u through this tax return.)

----I take it vice versa, we pay tax so we get these benefits, we are not getting it free & by the way, those who own the house they pay education tax too so I don't think education is free & I own a house so education isn't free for my kid.

(first list out the things u deserve, and give them to the govt here. that u want these things and if they can provide u then only u r willing to stay otherwise TATA. )

----Duncan, people have wasted their money & time to come here, money they might earn back the time that they have wasted, they regret that & you are asking them to be happy with all other things which are not very important because we didn't have these things in India but we had happy life.

(it is good thing that u r leaving back to india)

---- I am more happy than you are believe me.


(now don't take it personal), I am saying this cause it will just gives the oppurtunity to people who think that canada has given them something in life. maybe ur white collar position will be filled by some new, well wisher immigrant of canada.

----Definately, Like I did if they are ready to spend 2 years to get teaching registration & then pay $2000 on different tests & courses. even though I've masters in English, B.Ed. & I was lecturer in India for 5 years. I'm happy to quit my teaching job.

(I like to say few lines to all u people here,
we should not be like wax, which melt when kept near flames.
we should be like iron man, who know how to strugle in life.)

----At least I don't believe in struggling like this just to be in Canada then what is wrong in India??