Misconceptions about immigration to Canada.


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JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-06 19:01:35

Reply to Morning Rain.
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While I suggest you to consider certain (most) posts from TK from a "Not serious" point of view, I prefer to express something..

It is impractical for some one to vouch for a culture or region whose population may exceed few billions. TK, is probably failing to understand that his posts tend to draw some sort of inconvenience from many ends. I wish TK should consider writing what he feels in place of expressing an assumed view of a region/people .

Including my childhood and education, I spent about 22 years in Tamil Nadu state and about several short times in Chennai(A metro in Tamil Nadu) may be a year as a whole. From my experience, I find it extremely hard to sum up my views
on the "Culture" , "interests", "Customs", etc.., etc.., Its different from Street to Street even Home to Home.... I get to feel, its pretty common for any one understand what I am talking about.

Just because ones origin, Its impossible for anyone to like everything from his/her origin. Eg.., I find myself very comfortable living with Chinese food than the rest of the (high card, tough to digest food prepared back home.
I enjoy more Hollywood movies than Indian movies etc.., etc.., I say "More" not "Only". Having said that, there are still lot of things I like about India, Madras etc.., I don't need to get away from such things just because I have migrated to a different country.

Some times, I find certain posts start with "Why that people like that, this people like that"... Gimme a break, I guess my answer would be a big "No" for the same reason I mentioned above.

I feel it is common for people who move to abroad and look for people with their own cultural/regional background. My guess is, It is the question of "Comfort" but anything. Do you think the same sort of connection will remain when
the same set of people meet in their home town. I can loudly say "Doubtful", I've got my own practical experience in that. And obviously there is no surprise in that. Ten years back when I visited Middle East, I was initially little upset coz,
I couldn't adjust with the local atmosphere as it happens to a newcomer, I found myself bit comfortable when I started going to some Indian Restaurants and then met some people from my city back home. The same happened when I moved to USA in Mid 90s ..but as the time passed, you get to know more people from different background, you accept some people, some people may not
prefer us due to their own preferences and finally it result "Friendship among Few like minded people from different background/orgin". I feel the same story repeats to me and might as well for few others. Personally, some of the best
friends I have (also had in US) neither speak the same language as I nor the cultural background.
I strongly believe it is the matter of "Frequency". I even expect it might be the same case with many other people.

I feel bit hesitant to refer my personal experiences and feelings in a public forum but my intention at this point is to suggest "Not to make a generalized opinion about a place or people based on few fact less comments",
I even caution if such opinion builds up, it can't be a fact but fictious or just an observation over a set of folks.


Hey Folks, Have a very good weekend............ See ya'll..


Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain
I'd like to have other Tamilian's views before taking your words as gospel. I understand there are other Tamilians on this site. What do they think?

I guess I dont see where u are coming from



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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-06 19:03:00

Quote:
Originally posted by Daffodil

TK Who or what gives you the right to talk for all tamilians or tamil culture... do you think that by just being a tamilian you have all the right to keep saying " I speak for all tamilians" Why are you putting yourself on a pedestal for this community :cuss:

MR I think by this time you can make out that all about Tamil.blah ..culture ...is crap...Maybe one day you could visit us and see for yourself. welcome you as my guest.

I am proud of my roots but all the above has nothing to do with culture here only with specific people be it Indian / canadian or whatever. btw I was born in Chennai and have been living here for the past 30 yrs give or take a few years in north India and Abroad.

:cheers:
Daffodil



Hi There

I realize that one cannot generalize about a particular state of any country! I am punjabi... but I dont generalize myself. I realize each person's view is their own experience/beliefs and they cannot explain every individual in that particular community.

I have tamil friends :) I like to ask questions and make people think about their statements and beliefts and analyse their views. Its one of the ways humans can grow (IMO)

TK:

If a person doesnt want to remain in an environment such as Canada US etc, because of this 'loose morality' you seem to see everywhere, then I think you'll need to stay away from the metro cities of India. I understand life is pretty westernized ? Also please avoid bollywood.


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-06 19:13:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Confucius

This is ridiculous! As a true bred Tamilian, I shall attest to this: I have no idea what TK is talking about! TK, you are embarassing a lot of us on this forum. Please try to follow this simple rule: In Canada, do as Canadians do. (OK, so I borrowed the line from another famous saying and changed a couple of words. I unconsciously internalized it, so sue me).

Thenmozhi



I agree that culture is not homogenous , and that people will range across the spectrum from traditional to liberal in any community.

I think TK is speaking from his experience. Im not defending him but I think his life experience may be very different than other people. He may not be able to see a 'grey area' ( i dont know im just speculating)




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dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-06 20:18:01

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan


MR,
Let other Tamils speak up. Already one very mature and upright tamil is no longer posting in this board. I would have considered his opinion on this as being set in stone (for tamils only)

..........

TK
Sidenote : One tamil family that i know (whose wife does not call her husban's name in Canada) have 2 children and are looking to go to India within 2 or 3 years for this reason + the low education in Canada + schools having no discipline. This is just their view told to me and is not set in Stone. They have formed the view and want to leave Canada soon and i respect that.



My, my, my...I am so ashamed to declare my Tamil background.....

My MIL calls me by my first name instead of addressing me by the "true" "Tamil" way which is "Maapillai" (Jamai). Forget calling my name, my wife calls me names including "dumbass" when she is ever so impressed with the stupidest things I do sometimes. And my wife wears shorts in summer!!! AAAAAh What am I doing tolerating such sacrilage of "tamil" culture?




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meghal   
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Posts: 1651
Location: (0,0,0)

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-06 20:31:23

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sunflower   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 27
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-06 03:42:15

I find JRF's post very sensible. I am a chennite for 25 yrs (atleast for the next few days). I am leaving a place I feel completely safe and sound and feel rooted to. I am a mother of a 2 yr old girl and often worry about the influence of 'western culture'. But at the end of it, I feel it boils down to how we handle it. I must be open enough to embrace the culture here. I must be sensible enough to teach my daughter positive values in a new environment. I must open my ears and listen to her to learn how she feels. It is a tough job. But then that it why we are here for......



dimple2001   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 2873
Location: Western Hemisphere

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-06 07:46:23

Quote:
Originally posted by sunflower

I find JRF's post very sensible. I am a chennite for 25 yrs (atleast for the next few days). I am leaving a place I feel completely safe and sound and feel rooted to. I am a mother of a 2 yr old girl and often worry about the influence of 'western culture'. But at the end of it, I feel it boils down to how we handle it. I must be open enough to embrace the culture here. I must be sensible enough to teach my daughter positive values in a new environment. I must open my ears and listen to her to learn how she feels. It is a tough job. But then that it why we are here for......



Very well said :cheers:

And Welcome to Canada and wish you and your family the best.


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