Religious fanaticism at its worst


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meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-06-09 19:32:07

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/31/tiller-abortion.html" target="_blank">http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/31/tiller-abortion.html</a>

Any form of religious fanaticism is undesirable and should be condemned. Nobody has the right to force their own religious beliefs on others in a democratic country - and especially in so called "free world". I fail to see difference between this guy and a guy who is ready to blow-up himself and others in name of religion.



newincanada   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-06-09 15:28:58

Its all around the world in the name of all different religions, basically its the game of politics in the name of religion for the part of playing majority vs minority, which unfortunately gives a bad image for the religion.

Its the human mind which created religion and beliefs, over the ages many such religion would have grown and vanished too.. we can count and accept which is documented or have evidence perhaps for some generations. Today we do not know for sure what was the religion in the early stage of human species, do we?

Ones belief is his or her personal affair isn't and it should not be interfered nor be imposed on others?

Its the human nature to control things, when feels insecure of its own existence isn't?

May the soul of this doc rest in peace and god bless courage to his family and friends to face this tragedy. And god give wisdom to the person who shot him to realize what he did.

PEACE



new york   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-06-09 19:48:51

very good reply newincanada. Your nickname says what type of person you are and keep it up. we need peace:cheers:



newincanada   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-06-09 09:52:35

I am glad you(NY) got the point, this planet would have been a much more beautiful place if everyone would have understood this in same manner.

Lets not leave the hope...

"What we are today is the result of what we have thought"

Universal law of THOUGHT: Our thoughts eventually converts to wish. When positive thoughts are made law of nature gives back the same positive energy; thats the law of nature, which helps to make your positive thoughts to reality.

Eg.,
You give a smile, you receive back smile and spreads all around , you frown your face , only you face back hate none else - Law of Nature

PEACE always.



sguk   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-06-09 21:02:05

The abortion debate has always been of controversy in the US. Nevertheless, this is the action of one person taking the law into his own hands rather than Religious fanaticism. The last time somebody was killed in US was over a decade ago.

see the article below:


A crime that underlines an unbridgeable divide


GEORGE TILLER was helping out at his local church in Wichita when he was murdered. Witnesses say a man walked up, shot him in the head, threatened bystanders and fled in a car. Three hours later, the police arrested Scott Roeder, an anti-abortion zealot. On June 2nd he was charged with murder.

It was the first killing of an American abortion doctor in more than a decade. It came less than a month after Barack Obama, addressing students at a Catholic university, called for Americans on both sides of the abortion debate to seek common ground, perhaps by working together to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Dr Tiller’s slaying reminded Americans how far they are from achieving their new president’s dream.

For many pro-choice campaigners, the murder was evidence that inflammatory rhetoric begets violence. Dr Tiller was one of the most frequently denounced doctors in America—one of a handful who offer very late-term abortions. Bill O’Reilly, a popular cable pundit, fulminated about “Tiller the Baby-Killer” on at least 29 of his shows, according to Salon, an online magazine. Such “demonising language, at times, has consequences,” says Peter Brownlie, the head of the Kansas and mid-Missouri arm of Planned Parenthood, a pro-choice group.

Pro-lifers disagree. “We’re just as distraught as anybody else,” says Troy Newman, who runs Operation Rescue, a group that often picketed Dr Tiller’s clinic in Wichita. It is not pro-life to murder someone, argues Mr Newman, sitting in his office, a former abortion clinic that the group bought and “redeemed in the name of the Lord”. And besides, he says, “we were two months away from shutting him down.” Mr Newman says the Kansan medical authorities were about to revoke Dr Tiller’s licence following ethical complaints, though Dr Tiller had stayed open for decades despite a barrage of similar ones.

Pro-life groups worry that Dr Tiller’s murder will make the public think pro-lifers are violent. “This guy, I’d never heard of him [before this week]” complains David Gittrich of Kansans for Life. Reports suggest that the murderer acted alone. The suspect had a history of mental illness, according to his family. In the 1990s he associated with anti-government militia groups and was caught with bomb-making materials but freed on a technicality. More recently, he became obsessed with abortion and apparently posted comments on pro-life websites likening Dr Tiller to a Nazi.

Pro-choice groups fear that Dr Tiller’s murder will deter doctors from providing abortions and women from seeking them. It will surely scare those who offer abortions in the third trimester, as Dr Tiller did, but it will not come as news to such people that they have enemies. Dr Tiller was shot in both arms in 1993. His clinic was bombed in 1986, blockaded in 1991 and repeatedly vandalised. He hired a bodyguard, but was defenceless on the day he was murdered.

To activists, abortion is either murder or the inalienable right of every woman. Despite Mr Obama’s soothing words, it is hard to find common ground between those two positions. The public are split, but trending conservative. For the first time last month a Gallup poll found that a majority (51%) of Americans call themselves pro-life, up from 33% in the mid-1990s. Only 42% call themselves pro-choice. But these labels hide a lot of nuance. Most Americans would restrict abortion, but not ban it completely.

To ardent pro-lifers, the law today is immorally lax. Kansas, for example, allows late-term abortion only if two doctors agree it is necessary to save the woman’s life or prevent “substantial and irreversible” harm to “a major bodily function”. This has been interpreted to include damage to mental health, which pro-lifers say creates a big loophole.

Pro-choice groups say they exaggerate. Most abortions are done early, sometimes by means of a pill. Only about 1% occur after 21 weeks. Pro-lifers retort that this is still a huge number. Some 820,000 legal abortions were reported in 2005. The Guttmacher Institute, a pro-choice think-tank, puts the true total at 1.2m. That is down a quarter since 1990; still, more than a fifth of American pregnancies are terminated. Meanwhile, in Washington, DC, the Senate is preparing to grill a Supreme Court nominee whose views on abortion are unknown. Expect fireworks.




>Religious fanaticism at its worst
>http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/05/31/tiller-abortion.html

>Any form of religious fanaticism is undesirable and should be condemned. >Nobody has the right to force their own religious beliefs on others in a >democratic country - and especially in so called "free world". I fail to see >difference between this guy and a guy who is ready to blow-up himself and >others in name of religion.

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solly   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-06-09 09:45:57

Hi newincanada,

THAT was a good reply and very good thinking.

take care
solly





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