samosa_syndrome   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 58
Location: Alberta

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-03-05 22:53:44

Sarnia/Ontario
Electronics engineering technologist.
I do not run a farm,i work for the maintainence department of a well services company .

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I stay in Rural ontario on the lakes.

Do you mind sharing the name of your town/city?
Also, if you don't mind, what is your occupation?
Do you run a farm or homestead of your own?



bxmca   
Member since: Oct 04
Posts: 88
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 00:53:02

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While trying to get my PCC for the visa from the Mumbai Police HQ near Crawford Mkt., the policeman on duty straightway told me to pay 3,000 INR for same day delivery, or wait for a month. I said I will wait for a month, and subsequently got the PCC's after 1 1/2 months.


Wow! I admire you.

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On a superficial level, and from the IT perspective, India seems to be making rapid progress, but go down to the basics, and you will feel that our basic infrastructure is still a mess. For e.g. visit any Govt. run hospital, and you will see what I mean. Dogs, cows, and touts have a free run in these places; the lives of the common people in India have not improved much, and corruption/pollution is increasing day-by-day.



Coming back to the main question. I think I've decided on the conditions to move permanently back to India. When the income disparity between the classes have been reduced(for a cpl of generations) to the levels we see in North America. Then, I would probably move back...even if I'm making the 10-20% less, in India, than I'm making now.



what do you mean? income disparity between the classes? What do you see in north america? Just curious..



lal badshah   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 27
Location: delhi

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 08:36:11

In Delhi it takes just 6 hours to get PCC fr PP office. one has to deposit INR 300 and passport,nothing beyond it.
High speed internet is no more a luxury here ..
Electricity is at times scarce but at the same time snow ploughing problems r not here .
Saab ko mukamil jahan nahin milta



BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 09:13:30

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Saab ko mukamil jahan nahin milta



Exactly! Bole toh har jagah kuch na kuch lafda to haich! :p


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 10:08:38

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what do you mean? income disparity between the classes? What do you see in north america? Just curious..



the huge divide that is in India, between the haves and have nots. This divide is not that glaring in the west. My logic is that if this gap is narrowed in India...it would lead to better standard of living...less corruption, more cleanliness etc. Sipping martinis in an exclusive enclave while people live in plastic sheets , a stones throw away...is not exactly going to improve the 'standard of living' in any country. You are going to have to go through the same environment(albeit for limited time) the have-nots have to deal with everyday.
As long as one part of the population live like they are in the west but the other part live no better than 20 yrs ago, none of the problems that haunt India will go away.
I think the same logic applies western societies(where such problems exist tho on a very limited scale compared to India), and at large, to the world too.


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lal badshah   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 27
Location: delhi

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 12:08:13

This divide will be there in any developing nation .And I think we all r part of humanity seen on a macro level .Just by switching places reality is not going to change.Whole world is considered as one place to live.



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-05 12:17:33

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This divide will be there in any developing nation .



thats the reason why I dont want to go back...or rather when the divide is smaller is when I'll go back. Till then I prefer the ocean for insulation.

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Just by switching places reality is not going to change.



this is what I meant when I said earlier...and in other words:

Its not WHAT we are running away from...but HOW we do it.
AND
... some(like me) are more comfortable with the insulating effects of the oceans instead of gates, walls, barbed wire and tinted glass . In that sense we are all the same...irrespective of where we are.


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