My Experience in Trillium Hospital over this weekend!


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babail   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 18:35:47

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Originally posted by jake3d

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Originally posted by morning_rain
It stretched like a balloon! I suppose you could say that we were misusing a condom

:D



LOL.

What is a bit baffling is that the people who are conservative seem to be overly obsessed about their kids having or not having sex.

Hey, sex is an important part of ones identity. You treat it like something dirty it will become the same.



Wow never thought sex to be a part of someone's identity. If it's such an imp. part u must be having it open on streets :D

No one said it's dirty. It's all about ur pleasure needs. U have sex for pleasure not because it's a part of identity. Or maybe ur that type of person who brags about sleeping around with more than 200 females already and have 50 more in sight. On a side note maybe ur a porn star. Then it'll be a part of ur identity.

It's good to be open minded about it. Wonder what all ppl who have daughters think about it. I wonder why the country keeps on crying about the amount of teenage sex issues and getting pregnant. Getting pregnant is also a part of image for a lot of women. So why waste all this money on this issue as in the end all this is a part of ur image as Jake says because in the end the teenager will become a woman ???????? So in reality all the tax payers money is getting wasted in all these stupid nos. and studies they keep on doing.

MR a knife can be used to kill someone or cut a piece of cheese. A gun can be used to protect urself by just showing and scaring the attacker or can be used to kill someone. Everything in this world has atleast 2 sides (same as any word can be taken in any way) So whether u used a condom as a balloon or for it's main purpose that's ur choice. Why would I say u were misusing it. The problem is that it's ppl like u who take things in one st. line and don't see the other side of it thinking ur very open minded, but really u close ur mind to the reality of the situations.

Yes talking about dowry will cause it to grow than to decrease, because from day one we embed it in minds of kids too. Dont talk about it in front of kids, if they hear something about it, explain it's a social evil prevailing and the ill effects and then finish the topic for ever. Why keep on dwelling on it.



morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 18:49:20

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Originally posted by babail


MR a knife can be used to kill someone or cut a piece of cheese. A gun can be used to protect urself by just showing and scaring the attacker or can be used to kill someone. Everything in this world has atleast 2 sides (same as any word can be taken in any way) So whether u used a condom as a balloon or for it's main purpose that's ur choice. Why would I say u were misusing it. The problem is that it's ppl like u who take things in one st. line and don't see the other side of it thinking ur very open minded, but really u close ur mind to the reality of the situations.

Yes talking about dowry will cause it to grow than to decrease, because from day one we embed it in minds of kids too. Dont talk about it in front of kids, if they hear something about it, explain it's a social evil prevailing and the ill effects and then finish the topic for ever. Why keep on dwelling on it.




Babail:

You did not say that I was misusing it (that was a general statement I made) however I also do not profess to be 'open minded'. What I do say is that I am want to learn/debate.

You mentioned teenage pregnancies. It is more complex than simply condom machine in school = teenager pregnant. There are social, psychological, economic, environmental factors that can cause/contribute to teenage pregnancies.

Yes, one can avoid talking about sex but how do you set boundaries about dating? If you dont allow your child to date, what are the chances they will do it behind your back?

I appreciate your feedback because it helps me examine my beliefs further!


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babail   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 18:57:27

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Originally posted by morning_rain



Thanks for sharing this.
My parents (who are educated) moved in the early 70's - a year before I was born. I never grew up hearing my parents blame canada for anything.
I believe they became successful because they were also entrepreneurial.

"if life hands you lemons, make lemonade" is what they taught me.

I agree that even moving towns in the same country can make one homesick. :)



That's really good.
Just a question if you don't mind my asking. What were your parents doing in India when they came here. I mean as they were educated where were they working (I mean city etc) what posts were they on and what kind of salaries where they making???
The reason I am asking about it is that because most ppl. who seem to have problems are educated ppl. who had good jobs somewhere else when we feel we got lured. Again everything has 2 sides to it, so just curious to know.



morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 19:03:26

Quote:
Originally posted by babail

Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain

That's really good.
Just a question if you don't mind my asking. What were your parents doing in India when they came here. I mean as they were educated where were they working (I mean city etc) what posts were they on and what kind of salaries where they making???
The reason I am asking about it is that because most ppl. who seem to have problems are educated ppl. who had good jobs somewhere else when we feel we got lured. Again everything has 2 sides to it, so just curious to know.



Good question.

My parents immigrated right after they graduated (My dad with his masters degree..and mom with her teaching degree). Dad was registered for the PhD program but quit to move here.

I suppose if they had lived in India and worked, they may have felt differently.


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STHIRU18   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 103
Location: MISSISSAUGA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 19:10:48

I am visiting this website after one full year. Curiousity brought me back. The last time I was here, I wrote to say that there was good and bad everywhere and my essential question was....... "If things were so great way back home (In India), why did we come here"?. There were lot of abuses hurled at me, and I thought that I was among the most intolerant of people, on this website.

I know Shankaracharya personally, and I empathize with his situation. The parent in him has travelled lightyears to make it's feeling known. Perhaps as a Parent, I might feel the same way.

I have heard stories of people who had to wait for hours to see a doctor. I have had the occasion to visit the emergency at Trillium recently. I waited for over 2 hours for an emergency surgery done, but believe me I found the doctors and nurses friendly, cooperative and most of all, full of life.

I understand that all of us from way back home, are always innes a hurry. We are always in a hurry -. like hurrying to "catch the seat" in the bus or in a hurry to get the last ticket before the "house full" sign comes down,etc etc. The list could be endless, and would serve no purpose. Way back home, I have seen serpentine lines at hospitals, bus terminals, train stations, and even at the "jhutka meat shop" at the corner. That's life there, and we dare not complain (and besides, who is there to listen?)

I have waited hours at the waiting rooms of "specialist" doctors who charge 200 rupees for an appointment. There have been times when these doctors would turn up at the clinic several hours behind (because they were busy at another clinic in the city). Perhaps many of us have gone through this, but don't want to remember these unpleasant situations. However the moment we land here, we expect everything to be perfect!.

Let's face it. The systems here are not perfect, and lot needs to be done. There are webs of politics, corporate greed and red tape around these issues. It would make sense to write to George Smitherman the minister for health in Ontario. Let us petition him and ask him to do something about these waiting times.

Rather than get cynical, lets's act. Any takers?



babail   
Member since: Feb 06
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 19:11:15

Quote:
Originally posted by morning_rain



Babail:

You did not say that I was misusing it (that was a general statement I made) however I also do not profess to be 'open minded'. What I do say is that I am want to learn/debate.

You mentioned teenage pregnancies. It is more complex than simply condom machine in school = teenager pregnant. There are social, psychological, economic, environmental factors that can cause/contribute to teenage pregnancies.

Yes, one can avoid talking about sex but how do you set boundaries about dating? If you dont allow your child to date, what are the chances they will do it behind your back?

I appreciate your feedback because it helps me examine my beliefs further!




Why avoid dating. Does dating always lead to sex???

I had a love marriage. I dated my wife for 3 yrs before we got married. Both sets of parents knew about it. We didn't feel we required to have sex before marriage. Actually the day we got married, we both openly talked to each other that we felt more happy not having it before as today on the day we tied our knot we had something special to share which we never had.
Again it can be different for everyone.

I don't know how many retro shows u watch, but I love them specially late 70 and 80's. How many times does the word sex come in there. Look at any show now, is there anything except the word sex in them. There was fun, innocence, genuine mischeviouness in those shows. Now to make a person laugh it only comes from something to do with sex.

Anyway's it's everyone's own choice how u want to think about it or relate about it. No sense of arguing about this, because neither u r wrong neither I am. Neither I am a free thinker like Jake who makes it his identity neither I am conservative that I would kill my daughter for. She herself will have to choose the best, not me.



morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-04-06 19:16:50

Quote:
Originally posted by babail

Why avoid dating. Does dating always lead to sex???


I don't know how many retro shows u watch, but I love them specially late 70 and 80's. How many times does the word sex come in there. Look at any show now, is there anything except the word sex in them. There was fun, innocence, genuine mischeviouness in those shows. Now to make a person laugh it only comes from something to do with sex.

Anyway's it's everyone's own choice how u want to think about it or relate about it. No sense of arguing about this, because neither u r wrong neither I am. Neither I am a free thinker like Jake who makes it his identity neither I am conservative that I would kill my daughter for. She herself will have to choose the best, not me.




I wrote "how do you set boundaries about dating" .. I didnt say to avoid it :)

I love retro shows from the 80s ie/ full house, saved by the bell, growing pains, blossom etc. They are very funny and 'classic'. I do agree that today's shows generally are about sex, violence or both.

However I think there are some hilarious shows today that are classics: Everybody Loves raymond, King of Queens and Simpsons :)

I agree we dont have to argue about choices. Would you like to discuss shows :)


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