My Experience in Trillium Hospital over this weekend!


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jasmeek   
Member since: Dec 03
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:11:37

Jatan ,

If they feel bad abt our negativity let them becoz we are Right.

And I have not seen people like this before who says bad abt their own land ,they are indians but says they will never hire Indian ,some people think talking to desis in the office is a big shame atleast learn something from these goras they will teach you ,Instead of singing bad songs abt your own country.



I have met so many poeple (Goras) who says India is the best place to live and I was in a bussiness where Only goras used to come and buy stuff and so many of them immigrated to india ,they don't want to go back to their own countries...

Even a Black guy will prefer to hire a Black a white guy will prefer to hire a white but Indians who says will never hire Indian is a big shame .









Quote:
Originally posted by jatan

Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

Well it might be pathetic but you also have to consider this...

Since 1990 the government of Canada has sought to drastically decrease it’s soaring budget deficit. In order to help with this they have significantly reduced the amount of financial commitment going into our hospitals and there has been a sharp decrease in their spending on hospitals. This as you can imagine has taken it’s toll on our system no doubt, not to mention tested the patience of our doctors and nurses who have had to deal with a lot of change, less resources as well as the fact of being over worked and underpaid.




That's not for me to think about. If there are so many defecits since 1990 and u can't provide anything to the public, Privatise it. The only thing is all the govt. workers won't make any salaries as they find a new alternative so quickly than the next 20 yrs wasted talking.

Patience of doctors and nurses. My doctor in India works from 7 in the morning till 9 in the evening. Plus he works over weekends just for emergency patients. Also he is available 24x7. Plus he must have a patient list which is 30 times bigger than any doctor out here. Even then when I have called him 2-3 times from here, which is generally during is evening when he is at home, without any charges gives me advise over the phone. He has chatted with me, he has laughed with me. Doctors here, first thing they do is look at time. Sorry we don't give more than 15-20 minutes (though they only spend 5 minutes maximum)

All of u put down India for corruption, bribes etc. Have u ever thought for a moment that what those peons, clerks are paid. Not even 1/200th of the salary of the doctor out here. But they work like horses. How come no one says we can understand what those ppl have to go through, but when it comes to these SO CALLED FIRST COUNTRIES, it's always oh look at this and that. Look at these poor doctors Instead of making 300K this year they only got 280K. Oh poor guy, he'll starve. That salary can pay for atleast 8 families in Canada or most probably 30 families in India.

At least those guys perform and do their job and duty when they take a bribe and that salary which is not enough for even feeding their family. What do the doctors do out here. Every doctor I have gone to out here, after looking at one patient goes in his own room, sits for 5-10 min and then comes and looks at the next one. Come in late, not see u for days..... What do nurses do strike each year. That's all exceptable to all of u but not what those poor ppl. are doing to raise their families in India.

Gosh and u call ppl like me and Jasmeek negative. I prefer to be negative, but atleast I can see the other side specially for those ppl who are below poverty line. U see only bad side of India, but never want to sympathise with the country u were born in.



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Pink Panther   
Member since: Feb 06
Posts: 533
Location: Private location

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:23:33

Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

Jatan ,

If they feel bad abt our negativity let them becoz we are Right.

And I have not seen people like this before who says bad abt their own land ,they are indians but says they will never hire Indian ,some people think talking to desis in the office is a big shame atleast learn something from these goras they will teach you ,Instead of singing bad songs abt your own country.



I have met so many poeple (Goras) who says India is the best place to live and I was in a bussiness where Only goras used to come and buy stuff and so many of them immigrated to india ,they don't want to go back to their own countries...

Even a Black guy will prefer to hire a Black a white guy will prefer to hire a white but Indians who says will never hire Indian is a big shame .









Quote:
Originally posted by jatan


Actually, I was born in England, so in my own view I am not going against India. And I have to admit that the situation here in Canada is the same over in the UK too.

You are (inc Jatan) entitled to your views, as are the rest of CD's members...but after reading this whole thread and keeping in touch with what has been written here, I find that you are going from one extreme to the other. When other CD'ers argued against the system in India, (and also the topic onto which this thread digressed momentarily) you said in your own words that "Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?" And now you are telling another Cd'er (Jatan) that of all the CD'ers on this forum, only the two of you are right. We are having a discussion....it's not a competition to find out who is wrong or right.

Even I, who was not born in India but in the UK can see the flaws of the UK healthcare system and also here in Canada and I accept them.


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morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:29:39

Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

Well it might be pathetic but you also have to consider this...

Since 1990 the government of Canada has sought to drastically decrease it’s soaring budget deficit. In order to help with this they have significantly reduced the amount of financial commitment going into our hospitals and there has been a sharp decrease in their spending on hospitals. This as you can imagine has taken it’s toll on our system no doubt, not to mention tested the patience of our doctors and nurses who have had to deal with a lot of change, less resources as well as the fact of being over worked and underpaid.




I agree but I also agree that the state of canada's health care is very alarming and there are examples too regularly for there to be 'just a small crack' in the system. Do you know the breakdown of the federal government spending? The majority of the funds are given to the Military.

In order to help the majority of citizens, Money has to be managed differently not increased or decreased. There are many studies news reports and articles about mismanagement of funds that mysteriously disappear. How long/how many reports does it take or studies conducted to realize a) shortage of doctors in BC (for ex) b) only 6 internship spots for foreign trained doctors and c) a ----->b = increase spots (in order to increase # of doctors etc)

I do believe in process/systemic development and I know about bureacracy. However I also agree with cd's that what is obvious is being ignored: Health care is a problem here. It affects every one of us..but somehow its not a priority.

Its all about money. There really isnt value given to human life. People die waiting for treatment. Yes there are success stories out there..but relative to the horror stories, they dont make up for a poor system.

*my rant*


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jasmeek   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 149
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:30:12

I said this Sarcastically ok ("Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?";)

I'm not scared of the Truth.






Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

Jatan ,

If they feel bad abt our negativity let them becoz we are Right.

And I have not seen people like this before who says bad abt their own land ,they are indians but says they will never hire Indian ,some people think talking to desis in the office is a big shame atleast learn something from these goras they will teach you ,Instead of singing bad songs abt your own country.



I have met so many poeple (Goras) who says India is the best place to live and I was in a bussiness where Only goras used to come and buy stuff and so many of them immigrated to india ,they don't want to go back to their own countries...

Even a Black guy will prefer to hire a Black a white guy will prefer to hire a white but Indians who says will never hire Indian is a big shame .









Quote:
Originally posted by jatan


Actually, I was born in England, so in my own view I am not going against India. And I have to admit that the situation here in Canada is the same over in the UK too.

You are (inc Jatan) entitled to your views, as are the rest of CD's members...but after reading this whole thread and keeping in touch with what has been written here, I find that you are going from one extreme to the other. When other CD'ers argued against the system in India, (and also the topic onto which this thread digressed momentarily) you said in your own words that "Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?" And now you are telling another Cd'er (Jatan) that of all the CD'ers on this forum, only the two of you are right. We are having a discussion....it's not a competition to find out who is wrong or right.

Even I, who was not born in India but in the UK can see the flaws of the UK healthcare system and also here in Canada and I accept them.



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Truly Indian


Pink Panther   
Member since: Feb 06
Posts: 533
Location: Private location

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:37:03

What is the truth jasmeek?



Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

I said this Sarcastically ok ("Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?";)

I'm not scared of the Truth.






Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

Jatan ,

If they feel bad abt our negativity let them becoz we are Right.

And I have not seen people like this before who says bad abt their own land ,they are indians but says they will never hire Indian ,some people think talking to desis in the office is a big shame atleast learn something from these goras they will teach you ,Instead of singing bad songs abt your own country.



I have met so many poeple (Goras) who says India is the best place to live and I was in a bussiness where Only goras used to come and buy stuff and so many of them immigrated to india ,they don't want to go back to their own countries...

Even a Black guy will prefer to hire a Black a white guy will prefer to hire a white but Indians who says will never hire Indian is a big shame .









Quote:
Originally posted by jatan


Actually, I was born in England, so in my own view I am not going against India. And I have to admit that the situation here in Canada is the same over in the UK too.

You are (inc Jatan) entitled to your views, as are the rest of CD's members...but after reading this whole thread and keeping in touch with what has been written here, I find that you are going from one extreme to the other. When other CD'ers argued against the system in India, (and also the topic onto which this thread digressed momentarily) you said in your own words that "Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?" And now you are telling another Cd'er (Jatan) that of all the CD'ers on this forum, only the two of you are right. We are having a discussion....it's not a competition to find out who is wrong or right.

Even I, who was not born in India but in the UK can see the flaws of the UK healthcare system and also here in Canada and I accept them.




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jasmeek   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 149
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:41:07

Well if you are asking me the Truth then I will say that After listening the Ramayan who are asking me who is Ram?

Very Strange ...U still wanna know ?


Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

What is the truth jasmeek?



Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

I said this Sarcastically ok ("Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?";)

I'm not scared of the Truth.






Quote:
Originally posted by Pink Panther

Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

Jatan ,

If they feel bad abt our negativity let them becoz we are Right.

And I have not seen people like this before who says bad abt their own land ,they are indians but says they will never hire Indian ,some people think talking to desis in the office is a big shame atleast learn something from these goras they will teach you ,Instead of singing bad songs abt your own country.



I have met so many poeple (Goras) who says India is the best place to live and I was in a bussiness where Only goras used to come and buy stuff and so many of them immigrated to india ,they don't want to go back to their own countries...

Even a Black guy will prefer to hire a Black a white guy will prefer to hire a white but Indians who says will never hire Indian is a big shame .









Quote:
Originally posted by jatan


Actually, I was born in England, so in my own view I am not going against India. And I have to admit that the situation here in Canada is the same over in the UK too.

You are (inc Jatan) entitled to your views, as are the rest of CD's members...but after reading this whole thread and keeping in touch with what has been written here, I find that you are going from one extreme to the other. When other CD'ers argued against the system in India, (and also the topic onto which this thread digressed momentarily) you said in your own words that "Ok, Canada is the best place to live - happy now?" And now you are telling another Cd'er (Jatan) that of all the CD'ers on this forum, only the two of you are right. We are having a discussion....it's not a competition to find out who is wrong or right.

Even I, who was not born in India but in the UK can see the flaws of the UK healthcare system and also here in Canada and I accept them.





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Truly Indian


jasmeek   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 149
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-04-06 15:44:14

You not who


Quote:
Originally posted by jasmeek

Well if you are asking me the Truth then I will say that After listening the Ramayan who are asking me who is Ram?

Very Strange ...U still wanna know ?

/quote]


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