Mistakes made by you and donot want other new desis to make


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naudurivsm   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 376
Location: VA, USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 10:04:03

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Originally posted by jake3d

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Originally posted by naudurivsm

After about 10 days, I got a call from the Recruiting Agent expressing regrets and he said the client had recruited another person who agreed for a 20% lesser salary than me and asked me if I can match that. I told him point blank that I am not on road and am still on a pretty long term project and so would not compromise. there ended the story.

So "some times" your theory could back fire.

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Your thoughts ??

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I dont want to pick at you...but from where I stand it looks like you were pretty unflexible. Were you able to ask for other benefits in lieu of the salary drop? If you reach at a 'take it or leave it/Point Blank' stage it stops being a negotiation. One(employer/employee) reaches at that stage when one feels one is in a position to do so. You reached that position so do you regret the decision to stop negotiating? If so, why?




No, Jake here is what happened, first I quoted my requirement(expectation) and then
> they asked me if this was negotiable, I said 'Yes'.
> then they came back with a number and benefit package too, turst me the salary was too low compared to what I asked for, and as you said I agreed to that thinking that it is ok I can not and should not directly comapre the US and canadian pay scales, and completely agreed to what they offered.
> and after all these things they tried to bend me, that is where I refused point blank. it was there offer and they went back on it.





More over As I said earlier, our situation sets the tone for such bargaining or negotiations.
In my case I was on a stronger side /situation and no desperate at all under any circumstances and hence I could reject that offer straight away.
Had I been in Canada and say jobless for few months and looking for a break etc, then I would not have any choice except to accept the offer irrespective of whether it matches my skill set and worth.



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 10:08:08

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Originally posted by naudurivsm
More over As I said earlier, our situation sets the tone for such bargaining or negotiations.
In my case I was on a stronger side /situation and no desperate at all under any circumstances and hence I could reject that offer straight away.
Had I been in Canada and say jobless for few months and looking for a break etc, then I would not have any choice except to accept the offer irrespective of whether it matches my skill set and worth.



Yep...i mentioned this in reply to Charlie on the other thread earlier. There is no accurate, precise, formula.

Sometimes the positions are reversed with the employee increasing their price at the last moment...thats fair too according to me. It depends on how bad you want the employee/employer.

Can you guys tell that the server is down at my place of work? :p


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Loser   
Member since: Sep 04
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Location: Nice ,USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 10:11:17

do not start a discussion on this thread. Moderator please delete my this message and any other discussion on this thread. This is a info only thread not a discussion one.


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 10:17:00

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Originally posted by Loser

do not start a discussion on this thread. Moderator please delete my this message and any other discussion on this thread. This is a info only thread not a discussion one.



Mods whats your call? Were we out of line on this thread? Seems benign and relevant to me...however, it does dilute the original a bit. I personally dont see any harm but its your call.


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BlueLobster   
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 11:35:37

Although relevant in a way, I think the discussion is becoming too focused on interview-negotiation issues. Some of the conversation probably belongs to a job-hunting / negotiation thread.

Its relevant in a way, but would be nice if people started listing non-job related mistakes too. Also, from the perspective of someone simply reading the thread for informational purposes, "bullets" would be easier to digest than discussion.

I think a good thing to do would be for someone to start a "Negotiating your salary/position in an interview" thread and I'll transfer some of this information to that one and make it a sticky. Or I'll do this myself tonight. The discussion can continue on that one.


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naudurivsm   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 376
Location: VA, USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 11:41:21

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Originally posted by BlueLobster

Although relevant in a way, I think the discussion is becoming too focused on interview-negotiation issues. Some of the conversation probably belongs to a job-hunting / negotiation thread.

I think a good thing to do would be for someone to start a "Negotiating your salary/position in an interview" thread and I'll transfer some of this information to that one and make it a sticky. Or I'll do this myself tonight. The discussion can continue on that one.



BL, I am ok with that, and honestly my intention was not to hijack the thread or its intent. If people read these discussions with a little fouceed there is a lot to take to from it, to which you also agree. However it is upto you. I certainly will try to list out some other kinds of mistakes poeple often make.,

Anyways "Please mujhe ek baar maaf kar do " .... " Galthi se mistake ho gaya " :D



lana2005   
Member since: Feb 06
Posts: 545
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-05-06 12:39:21

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Originally posted by BlueLobster

Although relevant in a way, I think the discussion is becoming too focused on interview-negotiation issues. Some of the conversation probably belongs to a job-hunting / negotiation thread.

Its relevant in a way, but would be nice if people started listing non-job related mistakes too. Also, from the perspective of someone simply reading the thread for informational purposes, "bullets" would be easier to digest than discussion.

I think a good thing to do would be for someone to start a "Negotiating your salary/position in an interview" thread and I'll transfer some of this information to that one and make it a sticky. Or I'll do this myself tonight. The discussion can continue on that one.



I have opened another thread about the mistakes made in Job search / interview / negatiations. Please post your experiences there.

Thanks you everybody.




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