Didnt know KKK had an australian chapter.
Although the arabs seem to be gearing for a backlash themselves.
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SYDNEY, Australia - Violence spilled into a second night Monday as scores of youths drove through predominantly white suburbs of Sydney, smashing windows of cars, homes and stores and raising fears of spreading racial unrest.
Prime Minister John Howard called the violence \"sickening,\" but denied it was rooted in racism. Arab community leaders said the unrest would heighten racial tensions as cell phone text messages warned of retribution by the Arab community and attacks by neo-Nazi groups.
About 5,000 white men, many of them drunk, targeted people believed to be of Arab or Middle Eastern descent on Cronulla Beach on Sunday after rumors spread that Lebanese youths assaulted two lifeguards earlier this month.
Police, who had stepped up patrols on the beach after learning of cell phone text messages urging people to retaliate for the attack on the lifeguards, fought back with batons and pepper spray.
Young men of Arab descent struck back in several Sydney suburbs Sunday, fighting with police for hours and smashing dozens of cars with sticks and bats, police said. They said 31 people were injured, including a white man who was allegedly stabbed in the back, and 16 arrested.
Carloads of youths also tore through the suburbs Monday night, attacking vehicles and throwing bottles through windows. While only one person was reported injured and six arrested, there appeared to be more damage to cars and stores than on Sunday.
Television images of Sunday's riot shocked Australians, who pride themselves on tolerance and credit an influx of immigrants with helping build up the country after World War II.
Tensions between youths of Arabic and Middle Eastern descent and white Australians have been rising in recent years, fueled by the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States and deadly bombings on Bali that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.
Many Muslims also were angered over Howard's decision to contribute troops to the U.S.-led invasion of
Iraq in 2003.
The president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, said the violence was \"bound to happen\" following angry calls to radio talk shows after the attack on the lifeguards. Police have denied the assault on the lifeguards was racially motivated.
The unrest recalled three weeks of rioting in France that began in the suburbs of Paris on Oct. 27 and spread nationwide, baring frustration in communities with high immigrant and Muslim populations.
Police spokesman Paul Bugden said he did not have descriptions of those involved in Monday night's rampage, but said it was linked to Sunday's rioting.
Witnesses told an Associated Press photographer that some youths involved in the attacks were Middle Eastern or Arabic in appearance and others wore ski masks. Australian Broadcasting Corp. reported that police said men of Middle Eastern appearance were involved.
New text messages calling for more violence reportedly were being circulated. \"We'll show them!\" one message said, according to The Australia newspaper.
Howard defended Australia's policy of tolerance, noting that the nation has successfully absorbed millions of foreigners. \"I do not accept that there is underlying racism in this country,\" he said.
His comments were clearly aimed at immigrants and their families. Howard repeatedly has come under criticism for refusing to apologize for past government abuses of Aborigines, Australia's poorest and least educated minority group.
Morris Iemma, premier of New South Wales state, said police would find those behind the violence. \"Let's be very clear, the police will be unrelenting in their fight against these thugs and hooligans,\" he said.
About 300 people of Arab descent demonstrated against Sunday's attack outside one of Sydney's largest mosques, amid tight security.
\"Arab Australians have had to cope with vilification, racism, abuse and fear of a racial backlash for a number of years, but these riots will take that fear to a new level,\" said Roland Jabbour, chairman of the Australian Arabic Council.
In the 2001 census, nearly a quarter of Australia's 20 million people said they were born overseas. The country has about 300,000 Muslims, most in lower income suburbs of large cities.
A resident of the predominantly white suburb of Brighton-Le-Sands, Steven Dawson, said a bottle thrown through his apartment window Monday showered his 5-month-old son with glass, but did not hurt the boy.
Horst Dreizner said a car was rammed through the front doors of his denture store. \"Personally, I think it is only the beginning,\" he said by telephone.
The violence distressed residents of Sydney.
\"What we have seen yesterday is something I thought I would never see in Australia,\" Community Relations Commission chairman Stepan Kerkyasharian told Sky News.
Religious leaders urged calm, with Roman Catholic Archbishop Cardinal George Pell urging people to \"reject the extremists in both camps and work together so that this is the end of major disturbances, not the beginning of something worse.\"
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Didnt know KKK had an australian chapter.
Although the arabs seem to be gearing for a backlash themselves.
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SYDNEY, Australia - Violence spilled into a second night Monday as scores of youths drove through predominantly white suburbs of Sydney, smashing windows of cars, homes and stores and raising fears of spreading racial unrest.
Prime Minister John Howard called the violence \\\"sickening,\\\" but denied it was rooted in racism. Arab community leaders said the unrest would heighten racial tensions as cell phone text messages warned of retribution by the Arab community and attacks by neo-Nazi groups.
About 5,000 white men, many of them drunk, targeted people believed to be of Arab or Middle Eastern descent on Cronulla Beach on Sunday after rumors spread that Lebanese youths assaulted two lifeguards earlier this month.
Police, who had stepped up patrols on the beach after learning of cell phone text messages urging people to retaliate for the attack on the lifeguards, fought back with batons and pepper spray.
Young men of Arab descent struck back in several Sydney suburbs Sunday, fighting with police for hours and smashing dozens of cars with sticks and bats, police said. They said 31 people were injured, including a white man who was allegedly stabbed in the back, and 16 arrested.
Carloads of youths also tore through the suburbs Monday night, attacking vehicles and throwing bottles through windows. While only one person was reported injured and six arrested, there appeared to be more damage to cars and stores than on Sunday.
Television images of Sunday's riot shocked Australians, who pride themselves on tolerance and credit an influx of immigrants with helping build up the country after World War II.
Tensions between youths of Arabic and Middle Eastern descent and white Australians have been rising in recent years, fueled by the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States and deadly bombings on Bali that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.
Many Muslims also were angered over Howard's decision to contribute troops to the U.S.-led invasion of
Iraq in 2003.
The president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, Keysar Trad, said the violence was \\\"bound to happen\\\" following angry calls to radio talk shows after the attack on the lifeguards. Police have denied the assault on the lifeguards was racially motivated.
The unrest recalled three weeks of rioting in France that began in the suburbs of Paris on Oct. 27 and spread nationwide, baring frustration in communities with high immigrant and Muslim populations.
Police spokesman Paul Bugden said he did not have descriptions of those involved in Monday night's rampage, but said it was linked to Sunday's rioting.
Witnesses told an Associated Press photographer that some youths involved in the attacks were Middle Eastern or Arabic in appearance and others wore ski masks. Australian Broadcasting Corp. reported that police said men of Middle Eastern appearance were involved.
New text messages calling for more violence reportedly were being circulated. \\\"We'll show them!\\\" one message said, according to The Australia newspaper.
Howard defended Australia's policy of tolerance, noting that the nation has successfully absorbed millions of foreigners. \\\"I do not accept that there is underlying racism in this country,\\\" he said.
His comments were clearly aimed at immigrants and their families. Howard repeatedly has come under criticism for refusing to apologize for past government abuses of Aborigines, Australia's poorest and least educated minority group.
Morris Iemma, premier of New South Wales state, said police would find those behind the violence. \\\"Let's be very clear, the police will be unrelenting in their fight against these thugs and hooligans,\\\" he said.
About 300 people of Arab descent demonstrated against Sunday's attack outside one of Sydney's largest mosques, amid tight security.
\\\"Arab Australians have had to cope with vilification, racism, abuse and fear of a racial backlash for a number of years, but these riots will take that fear to a new level,\\\" said Roland Jabbour, chairman of the Australian Arabic Council.
In the 2001 census, nearly a quarter of Australia's 20 million people said they were born overseas. The country has about 300,000 Muslims, most in lower income suburbs of large cities.
A resident of the predominantly white suburb of Brighton-Le-Sands, Steven Dawson, said a bottle thrown through his apartment window Monday showered his 5-month-old son with glass, but did not hurt the boy.
Horst Dreizner said a car was rammed through the front doors of his denture store. \\\"Personally, I think it is only the beginning,\\\" he said by telephone.
The violence distressed residents of Sydney.
\\\"What we have seen yesterday is something I thought I would never see in Australia,\\\" Community Relations Commission chairman Stepan Kerkyasharian told Sky News.
Religious leaders urged calm, with Roman Catholic Archbishop Cardinal George Pell urging people to \\\"reject the extremists in both camps and work together so that this is the end of major disturbances, not the beginning of something worse.\\\"
Look guys. The problem is caused by middle eastern people. Wherevere you have people from middle east there are usually problems. They say it is because of poverty, discrimination etc.
But that's their culture. celebrating on the streets when people died on 9/11 etc.
Wherever Indians and Chinese live very few problems because we are hard working people and despite our poverty we get what we want by peacful ways.
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the problem is that when ppl immigrate they are not willing to integrate with the populatio, they live in neighbourhood dont talk or look down upon the local pop. that can antagonize ppl. spreadout and make everyone your own. NO APNE stuff and you will be loved
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 14-12-05 14:28:18
Id like to request you remove the message below.
this is a very racist/biased and stereotyped comment that I find very offensive.
How is it possible to stereotype an entire nation/culture through the actions of a few?
Thanks
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Orginally posted by maple_asian
Look guys. The problem is caused by middle eastern people. Wherevere you have people from middle east there are usually problems. They say it is because of poverty, discrimination etc.
But that's their culture. celebrating on the streets when people died on 9/11 etc.
Wherever Indians and Chinese live very few problems because we are hard working people and despite our poverty we get what we want by peacful ways.
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Orginally posted by morning_rain
Id like to request you remove the message below.
this is a very racist/biased and stereotyped comment that I find very offensive.
How is it possible to stereotype an entire nation/culture through the actions of a few?
Thanks
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Orginally posted by maple_asian
Look guys. The problem is caused by middle eastern people. Wherevere you have people from middle east there are usually problems. They say it is because of poverty, discrimination etc.
But that's their culture. celebrating on the streets when people died on 9/11 etc.
Wherever Indians and Chinese live very few problems because we are hard working people and despite our poverty we get what we want by peacful ways.
OK let me reword it. The problem is caused by people immigrating from countries where there is no freedom of religion and whose religion describes other people as infidels. for these people living with people of other religions is always a problem.
Make no mistake, I am not saying the whole middle east people are bad.
Unfortunately, most people in middle east don't know about other religions and hence they talk about other people as infidels etc.
There is racism in middle east too. Open any news paper in India and the advertisements for jobs in middle east say "Only muslims can apply" or "Only muslims and christians can apply". Isn't that racism? You can't even immigrate to some of the middle east countries.
In today's world racism is not by white man but racism is alive in middle east where non-muslims cannot build a temple or gurudwara or church
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Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 14-12-05 20:25:10
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Orginally posted by maple_asian
OK let me reword it. The problem is caused by people immigrating from countries where there is no freedom of religion and whose religion describes other people as infidels. for these people living with people of other religions is always a problem.
Make no mistake, I am not saying the whole middle east people are bad.
Unfortunately, most people in middle east don't know about other religions and hence they talk about other people as infidels etc.
There is racism in middle east too. Open any news paper in India and the advertisements for jobs in middle east say "Only muslims can apply" or "Only muslims and christians can apply". Isn't that racism? You can't even immigrate to some of the middle east countries.
In today's world racism is not by white man but racism is alive in middle east where non-muslims cannot build a temple or gurudwara or church
How can one make a statement that "most people in middle east dont know about other religions"?
Also, have there never been wars in India? What about the Tiananmen Square massacre in China? Is it not a generalization to say "Wherever Indians and Chinese live very few problems because we are hard working people and despite our poverty we get what we want by peacful ways."
what are your thoughts??
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Orginally posted by maple_asian
OK let me reword it. The problem is caused by people immigrating from countries where there is no freedom of religion and whose religion describes other people as infidels. for these people living with people of other religions is always a problem.
Make no mistake, I am not saying the whole middle east people are bad.
Unfortunately, most people in middle east don't know about other religions and hence they talk about other people as infidels etc.
There is racism in middle east too. Open any news paper in India and the advertisements for jobs in middle east say "Only muslims can apply" or "Only muslims and christians can apply". Isn't that racism? You can't even immigrate to some of the middle east countries.
In today's world racism is not by white man but racism is alive in middle east where non-muslims cannot build a temple or gurudwara or church
How can one make a statement that "most people in middle east dont know about other religions"?
Also, have there never been wars in India? What about the Tiananmen Square massacre in China? Is it not a generalization to say "Wherever Indians and Chinese live very few problems because we are hard working people and despite our poverty we get what we want by peacful ways."
what are your thoughts??
As I said earlier, most of the middle eastern countries have no religious freedom. Consequently, the people there get only oneside of the story. Can you imagine setting up a Hindu temple in Saudi Arabia, Yemen or Iran for instance? How can people there know about other religions if there is no religious freedom?
I am not sure which country you are from but having lived in a country like India where anybody can follow any religion without fear of persecution and where there is no state sponsered religion, I know the value of religious freedom.
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