Teja it is my duty to reply your querries:
I am not shouting but to reply on your quote I have used upper case(CAPITAL)
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Orginally posted by YoursTruly
Hi jago_desi,
I read your post three times to understand what you are trying to hypothesize. Here are my views:
*Your first assumption that there was a 'conspiracy' between HR Ministry and capitalists .....
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Canada is not a banana republic "HOW MANY OF IMMIGRANTS AGREE WITH TEJA" where such 'conspiracies' remain unexposed. If it would have been true, there would have been class action law suits long ago."THIS IS GOING TO BE FILED SOON IF CONDITION DONT CHANGE FAST" Moreover, how can you say that there are no unions in private companies?"PLEASE SEE BEYOND YOUR COMPANY....THERE ARE FEW COMPANIES WITH UNIONS" And how can you assume that desis (or immigrants) will destroy these unions?"I NEVER SAID THAT" In fact newcomers are in the forefront of many of these unions"IF YOU KNOW THEM....ASK THEM OF THE CORRECT PICTURE OF WORKING CONDITIONS IN FACTORIES". You have asked readers to research for themselves to get the facts. Apparently, you yourself are short on this' ATLEAST I AM TALKING SENSE FOR SOME, YOU SHOULD TRY TO ADD ON IT AND NOT SUBTRACT".
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*Your second assumption that instead of allowing in labourers, the Canadian immigration started to bring in skilled people as they knew English.
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It would have been much simpler and cheaper to bring in labourers on workers visa and force them to leave once the job is over"THEY WANT LIFE LONG LABOUR & ENGLISH WAS QUALIFYING A PERSON FOR EASE OF COMMUNICATION". As is being done in gulf countries. I do not understand why the Canadian Govt. wanted to go the more expensive way. And give them all the rights and facilities enjoyed by the citizens"WHAT FACILITIES YOU ARE TALKING FROM GOVT.....PLEASE LET ME KNOW TO AVAIL THEM". Do you have any answer for this? Do not tell me it was an error. Errors can be rectified in no time." I THINK YOU HAVE TO RECTIFY ERROR"
WHAT U THINK AS FACILITY IS A GIFT OF LESS POPULATION
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In your post you have said:
"Lets take an example of a factory where welding is done, they expect foreign engineer to know hw to do it and should be doing it. But maximum number of engineers coming from deshi countries having 10 years of experience to back up their education have not welded a 10 cm length.....if they needed welders they should have got one and not engineers... "
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How true! A welding engineer" I THINK YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF ENGINEERING....THERE IS NOTHING SORT OF WELDING ENGINEER.....ANF IF YOU ARE TALKING OF SPECIALIZATION IN WELDING FOR AN ENGINEER......IT WILL BE A SUPERVISOR JOB & NOT A WELDER JOB from desi countries finds it below his dignity to hold the welding torch in his hand and start welding"IT IS NOT A MATTER OF HOLDING WELDING ROD BUT ENGINEER IS CAPABLE OF MULTIPLE TASK WITH RESPONSIBILTY". The fact is he does not even know how to weld. On the contrary, in developed countries even Welding Professors know how to deposit sound welds"IN COLLEGE ENGINEERS ARE TAUGHT TO WELD FOR UNDERSTANDING THE THEORY.....THEY ARE NOT ASKED AT LENGTH TO GO ON WELDING TILL THEY ARE EXPERTS BECAUSE ENGINEERS BRAIN CAN BE USED FOR MORE ADVANCED SUBJECTS THEN PRACTICALY WELDING". It is part of their skill sets"IT IS NOT THE PART OF P ENGG OF CANADA SKILL SET. YOU ARE PRESENTING AN ARGUMENT FOR THE HECK OF IT". The big question is: Were we ready for the change when we came here? ' YOU MEAN TO SAY....WERE WE READY FOR DEGRADATION"And are we changing with our new environment?"ARE WE ACCEPTING HUMILATION. A GENERAL MANAGER OF A POWER PLANT FROM DESH IS NOT FIT FOR A OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE JOB IN POWER PLANT OF CANADA".IS CANADA USEING SOMETHING OTHER THAN STEAM, COAL OR NEUCLER POWER TO GENERATE POWER....YOU WANT AN ENGINEER TO CHANGE AT WHAT LEVEL"
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jago_desi, no doubt it is creative to think outside the box "THANK YOU FOR RECOGNISING MY IDEA.....THIS IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN START DEVELOPMENT OR CHANGE PROCESS......FOLLOWING CIC FIGURES WILL NOT TAKE US ANYWHERE" but it is always prudent to draw line between fantasy"I DONT KNOW HOW YOU GOT THE IMMPRESSION OF FANTSY" and reality
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Orginally posted by jago_desi
You've got another quote somewhere about challenging the Ontario board of education and your wife starting to teach. If she speaks English the way you write, my sympathies with the kids in that school, I sure wouldn't want mine there.
Just wondering, did you take an ESL course after coming here to Canada? Oh yeah wait, maybe your ESL instructor was also someone who went up in appeal and insisted on teaching without an upgradation of skills.
This man is a failure and is trying to prove his superiority at this forum. I am sure he is a super dooper failure in real life OR he wont be talking like this.....I wont like your kids coming to the school of my kids....becuase they are sure to carry your attitude every where...........I presume you are pretty successful in Canada....do a favour on us and keep your family away from our kids........I dont want them to get rude attitude like your's.....YOU ARE A FAILURE IN YOUR ATTITUDE
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Orginally posted by jago_desi
This man is a failure and is trying to prove his superiority at this forum. I am sure he is a super dooper failure in real life OR he wont be talking like this.....I wont like your kids coming to the school of my kids....becuase they are sure to carry your attitude every where...........I presume you are pretty successful in Canada....do a favour on us and keep your family away from our kids........I dont want them to get rude attitude like your's.....YOU ARE A FAILURE IN YOUR ATTITUDE
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
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Orginally posted by jago_desi
This man is a failure and is trying to prove his superiority at this forum. I am sure he is a super dooper failure in real life OR he wont be talking like this.....I wont like your kids coming to the school of my kids....becuase they are sure to carry your attitude every where...........I presume you are pretty successful in Canada....do a favour on us and keep your family away from our kids........I dont want them to get rude attitude like your's.....YOU ARE A FAILURE IN YOUR ATTITUDE
You don't make sense Jago_desi! If I was a failure, I would be commiserating with you right now, probably trying to blame everything on the system and on everyone else around me.
You've got to be the loser around here, since you're the person who's complaining...............
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I once made a mistake, but I was wrong about it.
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
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Orginally posted by jago_desi
This man is a failure and is trying to prove his superiority at this forum. I am sure he is a super dooper failure in real life OR he wont be talking like this.....I wont like your kids coming to the school of my kids....becuase they are sure to carry your attitude every where...........I presume you are pretty successful in Canada....do a favour on us and keep your family away from our kids........I dont want them to get rude attitude like your's.....YOU ARE A FAILURE IN YOUR ATTITUDE
You don't make sense Jago_desi! If I was a failure, I would be commiserating with you right now, probably trying to blame everything on the system and on everyone else around me.
You've got to be the loser around here, since you're the person who's complaining...............
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Odd! If someone goes around bashing Canada, he's a very nice person. If someone challenges the BS you guys have been posting on this site, he's rude and arrogant.
Good goin' fellas!
We never talked about meeting in person, did we? Don't know where you got the impression that I'd want to meet with you!
Hi jago_desi,
I have to say that it is very interesting theory you have and I agree that it needs investigating but without being bitter.
See, all of us who come here have some expectations and any amount of knowledge about the current conditions does not prepare us for the ground realities out here.
It was a good thing your wife challenged the Education Council and that is the way to take ... yes there is struggle but you have to agree that a lot depends on the Individual also.
Either you can take all this as a fantastic growth opportunity ... "mind only grows when challenged" ... or you can become bitter ...
You have to think very logically ... please remember that Canada's immigrants are not coming just from Apna Desh so the whole immigration policy has to be geared towards the average immigrant ...
And Language skills man .... they are the most important ... anywhere ... more so in North America ... Good Language skills are what good thinking skills based on.
Crenshaw probably did not point out diplomatically and I agree that it has no bearing on your skills as an Engineer but man believe u me that improving your language skills is the most important "upgrade" to your skill set you can get and I don't mean just you ... but anybody anywhere.
And please there is no call for anybody to be rude. This is a discussion forum and we can all help each other a lot.
But take any criticism constructively otherwise this becomes "he said-she said shouting match".
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