Manasvi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-05 02:06:37

The discussion continues ..... in favor and against .... its always been a never ending 1 .

Happy New Year Evry1 .............Just my 2 cents ........

1. Plants regrow fruits and leaves if they r plucked ..........animals dont regrow their limbs ........

2. Using the hair or an other useless part of an animal is more permitted than harming it for it ............. u cant equate milking a cow to killing it .

3. Cheese that contains renet is non veg ...check the ingredients when u buy .

4. It is the suffering which we construe in mind wrt animals which is missing in plants ......... as rightly pointed out v do not imagine plants oozing blood or suffering .......... which may mean that they may or may no have any ....... both ways .

5. Carnivores and herbavores dont have a choice . But as humans v do have it and brain and feelings like compassion and kindness ....... An animal is called a 'man eater' if it tastes human blood and is killed .......... wonder what happens 2 humans who have eaten thousand animals .

6. Yes Vegan is the best but then who wudnt wear shoes ?? ;)............. I guess its there in the mindset and convenience ...........plus values which prevent us from such .

7. A plant may regrow its fruits and seeds .......... but how abt a root ---- a potato / ginger ??? I bet Jains dont eat either of these .......... but that appears OK to most vegeterians .

In the end the choice lies ................ y not stop millions of animals from getting slaughtered if we can .......... just imagine the last look on the animals face and the last scream when its getting slaughtered ....................

Manasvi.



manorma shivani   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-05 12:56:33

Quote:
Orginally posted by maxim


please read the link

http://www.webcom.com/~ara/col/books/VEG/ht/chapone.html



Thanks Maxim:
I read and noted in my favorits.



Nikhil   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 02-01-05 19:53:16

Thank you Meghal for considering this very humane topic. Can anyone prove scientifically that eating meat is more beneficial than vegetables?

Regards,

Nikhil



Manasvi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-05 01:01:29

Very good point though overlooked so far .

I remember someone telling me that the human anatomy is designed for vegetables and hence non vegetarian matter strains the digestive system taking more time ........

However considering world over a majority of meat eaters I aint sure how far is the point valid . Maybe other s have a better idea .

Manasvi .



pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-05 10:33:23

Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi
Very good point though overlooked so far .

I remember someone telling me that the human anatomy is designed for vegetables and hence non vegetarian matter strains the digestive system taking more time ......

However considering world over a majority of meat eaters I aint sure how far is the point valid . Maybe other s have a better idea .

Manasvi .

Manasvi --

This is not true.
I don't know where you read or heard this, but this is simply an idea without any factual basis.
I am not getting into any religious controvery over this, but human anatomy is not an exclusively plant-eating one.
It has several features that support meat eating, such as the jaw structure, the gut, the liver and the digestive system.
Yes, it takes longer to digest meat and meat-based food items, but the human system is designed for longer digestion.
Most plant based food products are different forms of carbohydrates and sugars, which get digested very fast.
On the other hand, meat based products are mostly fat and protein, which takes longer to get digested.
Proteins are broken down into carbohydrates and sugars over several hours.
Fats are usually broken down into the constituent fatty acids and cholestrerol, etc. which is directly deposited in the body since it is the most effecient form of energy for the human body.

There is no animal in nature (man included) who can eat food it is not designed for.
If you start feeding meat to a vegetarian animal, it will die, and vice versa.

Also, historically, man has been an omnivore.
Man's consumption of plant foods has been limited to seasonal fruits and vegetables.
The rest of nutrition was provided by hunted meat.
Some remote communities that evolved in the Tundra and the Siberia did not have even that much plant food - they evolved exclusively on meat.

The consumption of grains started only about 10,000 years ago with the advent of agriculture.
Domestication of animals and the consumption of milk and milk-based products also started then.

Prior to that, man's typical diet was comprised of mostly hunted meat, foraging for small insects, seasonal fruits and vegetables and some roots that were edible raw.


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-05 10:47:43

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As A Wise person said“If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone in the world would be a vegetarian”.




As another wise person said" If kitchens in indian restorants had glass walls, everyone in india would stop eating from restorants"

Now u know why indian food test so spicy and sour?
pasina ki kamai hai bhai:D


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manorma shivani   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-01-05 11:40:59

Quote:
Orginally posted by maxim

Quote:
Orginally posted by dp_jain
Treating animals equal to plants is nothing but a thought of sick intellectual mind where one is trying to prove a wrongful act to a rightful alike a lawyer trying to prove a criminal innocent, although he knows it.




Quote:
Orginally posted by Manasvi
In the end the choice lies ................ y not stop millions of animals from getting slaughtered if we can .......... just imagine the last look on the animals face and the last scream when its getting slaughtered ....................
Manasvi.




As A Wise person said“If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone in the world would be a vegetarian”.

This is one of the truest statements ever made. If people thought about or saw what really happens to animals in slaughterhouses for more than a second, it would get to them and they would not be able to bring themselves to still be a carnivore. Those animals endure some of the cruelest treatment and neglect. Also, slaughterhouses are kept in the most unsanitary conditions and violate more laws then almost any other business. The slaughter of animals for human consumption should be banned.
links
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/ar-aninsidelook.html

http://www.all-creatures.org/index.html</font>


I went on the both sites and added to my favorites, because I couldn't read all of it. I' will read later.




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