Let's share good positive point about Canada


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anand16   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 124
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 11:26:37

Dear Chandresh,

Well in this CD post everyone has posted about their personal life in Canada. What is wrong in me tell that me and my wife have come successful in Canada?


Chandresh
" it is full of positive points about you as both, not Canada!"

I told my exp thats all. When people can make negative remarks about Canada related to their personal exp why cant we give positive remarks related to personal exp?





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Dear CD'S,

I've see lots of negative remarks about Canada. This is not good for future immigrants.

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Why a negative remark is not good for future immigrants? Only if those remarks were false or made up, then yes, they are not good for them. However, if there is truth in those remarks, then don't you think it rather educates future immigrants and so is actually good for them.

Painting a rosier picture than factual situation can be more detrimental to a future immigrant than writing negative remarks, even if they were half truth!


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Let me share some good positive point about Canada. Positive image about Canada. Well my exp was different in Canada. I did my schooling in England and worked in Europe for 4 years before moving to California. Then moved to Canada and landed in a good job in 2 weeks time. I worked all over canada as it was 75% travelling job. Now for the last 6 years working in both US and Canada and travelling all over the place. My wife is an Architect and she landed a job with http://www.fluor.com." rel="nofollow">LINK Well she did her masters in NY and worked in US for 2 years. Now she works for Flour both in US and Canada. I prefer Canada over US. Thats my personal choice. I know lot's of CD'S dont accept my point or my views. For your info i work as Resource Manager (Corporate and Consulting Recruitment) in IT and Engineering industry. My advice to all CD'S is work smart not hard. Do your home work well and sure you'll get what you want in life.

Thanks,

Anand16

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Nowhere does it suggest that Canada is good - you have great qualities and so does your wife - and you guys would have been successful anywhere. However, the topic of your thread is 'positive points about Canada', which I do not see anywhere in your post - it is full of positive points about you as both, not Canada!

Chandresh



IBCD   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 5
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 13:46:10


Hi TinkingOne

[Anyway, I am of the opinion that - An educated skilled professional, if coming to Canada, is a mistake. And after coming here, if going back, that s a blunder. Feel free to dissect this. ]

Why you feel that going back is a blunder. Instead you want people to surrender in this Chakravuy and suffer.

I would rather say coming to canada can be a mistake but suffering and getting sucked here is a Blunder. Better to move back. Everybody makes mistake but then one has to take corrective action.

So guys i feel do not feel shy of RETURNING TO YOUR HOMELAND. BE BOLD AND SAY I AM BACK.

What other forum members have to say?



ThinkingOne   
Member since: Mar 05
Posts: 496
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 13:58:57

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I would rather say coming to canada can be a mistake but suffering and getting sucked here is a Blunder. Better to move back. Everybody makes mistake but then one has to take corrective action.

So guys i feel do not feel shy of RETURNING TO YOUR HOMELAND. BE BOLD AND SAY I AM BACK.

What other forum members have to say?


Everyone has different ideas about happiness. Reasons could be based on - money, famly life, social life, materialistic things, clean air etc etc.. or perhaps a combination of these things.

IBCD, If I werent having a good job here, I wouldnt have continued in telemarketing for my life, and would have gone back to India. But I need to devote quality time and efforts towards making things better for myself. I agree, no point in suffering, take a corrective action.... but then with no regrets. Take a decision and stick to it.... no ifs or buts... Like If I were in Canada... If I were in India...

Positive feedback mechanism is the key. If something not working out, then take corrective action to go back.

Regards.



me2canada   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 178
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 14:06:39

This is what I think:

Canada's immigration system is flawed, in that it cannot PLACE the tax earners it approves bring in. There have been problems but some people, through their experience, motivation or personalities do overcome the cracks in the system and achieve success. IT & Accounting etc are sectors where occupations can become competitive and mostly accessible and people with great profiles like Anand16 have been able to cull out a successful career for themselves and like what Chandresh says, they could do well wherever they went, is true.

The Immigration system should be revamped and benchmarked against USA given its rich and varied history of immigrants. The focus that Canada is banking on is to bring in as many skilled immigrants as possible so as to create markets for diverse growth is kicking back giving all these problems. Well, definitely, it is NOT happening as it was planned. Skilled immigrants are coming in, no doubt, but are being displaced occupationally by either resorting to doing jobs that are not what they like, given the financial erosions they have had to face to establish themselves or by becoming jobless. Either way, it is a well documented fact that Canadian govt has still not set itself systems to calibrate foreigh education and work experience something which SHOULD be enforced in the job markets across Canada. Having set this, immigration should be opened for people ONLY with jobs thereby ensuring that influx of taxpayers rather than having immigrants contributing to low-income groups.

In addition to this, no offence intended, Canada should have a diverse quota and limit a large influx of immigrants from countries like China & India, because we do not want a Canada in 2020 with majority of Indians and Chinese. We want the same Canada that we have had since its inception keeping visible minorities at 2-3% level of the total population. We don't want to turn Toronto into Bombay or Shanghai - no no!

Sorry folks but I'm being honest here. Think about it!


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IBCD   
Member since: May 05
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 16:26:53

Peole having job offers should be allowed is also full of flaw.

The immigration consultants and other small companies take advantage of it. This is happening in process for Australia and NZ. They have added hugh points forhaving job offer. So immigrants gets job offer with condition that oncethey land they will not be paid and will have to search for other jobs. Hire and Fire happens in such countries. But still there are poeple who are ready to pay to consultants and anyhow try to reach those countries.

Secondly if the country needs immigrants more than India and China is the only country where they can get qualified people. So they cannot limit from this countries. Also very less people will migrate from western europe may be more may migrate from easter europe.


There was a plan to have 1% of population immigration every year. That means more than 3 Lac people every year as present population is approx 30 million. A country could still survive this 10 years back, but not now as US the biggest investor in Canada is now eyeing China and India for their new business operations.

GUYS, I am sorry to say but i see very very bad situation in this country in coming decade. Just imagine most of the manufacturing moving to China and most of service sector moving to India. Almost complete stop of FDI from USA in Canada. All this makes me feel what could be the future of the people in this country specially the immigrants. The labor charges might do down further from $7 per hour to may be $ 5 hour.

So there will be marked shift in the labor market of future. There will demand not for skilled people like IT, neither Automobile engineer but for auto mechanic who can repair cars, electrician who can get wiring done, cleaners, retail outlets persons, pizza delivery man etc etc.. IN short only unskilled people requirement. But with more immigrants this will also be difficult to get.

In such scenario the only way to survive in this country is to adopt India model where there are lots of low quality housing apartments , cheaper rent, tax to be reduced further may me more.

Any correction..?




me2canada   
Member since: Jun 04
Posts: 178
Location: Toronto, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-05 18:21:38

No, I don't think so. The trade between US and Canada has more to it than just manufacuring or service outsourcing. Economies of scale, superior infrastructure, geographical proximity, NAFTA trade protection will impact the trade more than just this. Infact a larger concern would be US economy, if anything happened to US, Canada is the first country to face the consequences. India and China could be just strong trade partners like for any other country. Globalization also means interdependence and not just concentration on two sectors.


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chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 2606
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-05-05 08:25:15

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Orginally posted by anand16

Dear Chandresh,

Well in this CD post everyone has posted about their personal life in Canada. What is wrong in me tell that me and my wife have come successful in Canada?


Chandresh
" it is full of positive points about you as both, not Canada!"

I told my exp thats all. When people can make negative remarks about Canada related to their personal exp why cant we give positive remarks related to personal exp?




Anand,

You are absolutely right in saying that you can give positive views related to personal experience - and we are more than happy to hear that (will give me more knowledge and guidance). However, your thread is about positive things of Canada - which is nowhere shown in your post.About Canada - please reflect back on that - nowhere have you mentioned the good about Canada which has brought happiness and better lifestyle for you. For example, if you had written 'from small houses in London to big houses in Toronto' or 'from pollution and lack of 24 hrs electricity supply in India to clean air and constant supply of water and electricity', that would be the positive points about Canada.

I hope you are able to understand the difference between your topic and your post.

Chandresh


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