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Originally posted by morning_rain
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Originally posted by chandresh
I dont believe that all Indians are the same - just like anyone on this earth. I dont like to generalize about groups (ie/ Tamils) hence I question people when they makes such generalizations. If one has the gall to say it..then back it up!
So no..i dont take tk or anyone else's views as gospel. I listen/read, ask questions, analyse, critique and come to my own conclusions (as everyone else does!). If I wanted to just generalize and assume the worst about people from India, I wouldnt come to this forum. Id just be sitting happy in my opinions .. not needed to learn more.
I want to learn. I want to ask. I want to provoke and get other people thinking.
Hope thats ok!
I have no doubts about your understanding and intelligence - but my post, though seems to take your name, is basically for all those non-Indians who stumble upon this site by chance. Just in case they read this particular thread, I do not want them either to assume, or at times confirm the misconception many carry, that Indians are lowly persons.
Besides your screen name, that is what we admire about you - your wish to learn, to ask, and your ability to provoke and make people think (and at times, retaliate)
Chandresh
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Posted on: 04-04-06 19:23:40
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 04-04-06 19:23:40
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Originally posted by chandresh
Besides your screen name, that is what we admire about you - your wish to learn, to ask, and your ability to provoke and make people think (and at times, retaliate)
Chandresh
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Posted on: 04-04-06 19:41:41
Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 04-04-06 19:41:41
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Originally posted by morning_rain
Interesting. I have had discussions with people that have expressed similar views to yours.
Do you think that some Immigrant parents feel they have no control over many aspects of their lives and so try to control their children..because they can? Is it because they do not trust their own parenting skills and think their children cannot handle their own lives? Is it possible that they are afraid of being 'broken up with'?
I guess there are no right answers..
Yep, there is no one answer. It is a combination of parents' paranoia, lack of self confidence, and lack of trust of their own children.
The above is partly caused because of over sweeping stereotyping, generalization, negativity, and prejudice about people, countries and culture that are different from themselves and theirs, although, they all seem to enjoy the benefits (whatever that might be) the country and people seem to offer.
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Dimple2001
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Posted on: 04-04-06 21:56:51
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Posted on: 04-04-06 21:56:51
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Originally posted by morning_rain
,My question to you though is this: You put reliance on the next generation to supprt you because you have to support your parents. What if:
a) you lose your job?
b) you cant have children ? (physically)
c) Your child dies before you do?
d) your child refuses to support you becuase they are just making enough to survive?
etc.
Reliance on someone else (im talking in North america here)..is hard isnt it? Is that one reason female children are viewed so negatively in India?..because they are expected to go to their husband's home and support his parents. They cannot support their own? What do you do if you only have a daughter?
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MR,
I had an urgent work and so i could not reply till now.
If i lose my job in Canada , i have alternate plans. Canada is not the only place on earth. My wife has an assured 100K job in USA. I can get a job as an architect in USA.
I have a daughter
if my child dies before i do, then i call it fate. then ***** (moderators may not like this so it is blanked out)
if my child refused to support me and i canot get by in life, i may think of 88888 (moderators will not like this so it is blanked out)
you are missing the entire point MR.To me, it does not seem like you know Indian culture or India. Most of your comments are like a Gora's comments.
LEt me explain :
My father is 65 years old and i am 36. He earns to support 1/2 of the family. HE has a house valued at 7 lakhs and jewels eastimated at 1 lakh, he has savings worth 1 lakh (all in rupees). I will send all the money that i have. If he is really in a need , i will beg or borrow and send him money. After they die, then all the property will come to me (1/2 part- and if there is any). with that i will raise my children.
TK
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Posted on: 04-04-06 22:36:33
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 04-04-06 22:36:33
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If i lose my job in Canada , i have alternate plans. Canada is not the only place on earth. My wife has an assured 100K job in USA. I can get a job as an architect in USA.
If you have a very good job offer in the US,..then why are you still in ur current position? One which makes you feel very negative about ur environment. When are u planning to move to US?
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I have a daughter
if my child dies before i do, then i call it fate. then ***** (moderators may not like this so it is blanked out)
if my child refused to support me and i canot get by in life, i may think of 88888 (moderators will not like this so it is blanked out)
According to Indian culture, daughters do not support their parents, sons do.
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you are missing the entire point MR.To me, it does not seem like you know Indian culture or India. Most of your comments are like a Gora's comments.
LEt me explain :
My father is 65 years old and i am 36. He earns to support 1/2 of the family. HE has a house valued at 7 lakhs and jewels eastimated at 1 lakh, he has savings worth 1 lakh (all in rupees). I will send all the money that i have. If he is really in a need , i will beg or borrow and send him money. After they die, then all the property will come to me (1/2 part- and if there is any). with that i will raise my children.
TK
You are entitled to your view that I dont know Indian culture. Its funny but my spouse was born and raised in India as well. He says our view is also 'indian culture' (because he shares and supports my views). If others also believe that my views are too westernized, I invite comments.
In regards to your father: I understand your desire to ensure your parents are comfortable. Thats universal NOT only indian culture.
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Posted on: 04-04-06 22:46:16
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 04-04-06 22:46:16
MR,
Though i have good oppertunities in USA and the means to get there, i want the Canadian got. to pay for all the wrong doings that is has done to me and pay me compensation. I will not leave until i get that compensation.
A child supports the parents (be it son or daughter). This is tamil culture. Do you knwo that many only daughters donot get married in Tamil Nadu just for the fact that they need to support their parents.
I donot want to comment about other stuff of your post. Moderators maynot like that.
TK
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Posted on: 04-04-06 22:57:12
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 04-04-06 22:57:12
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
MR,
Though i have good oppertunities in USA and the means to get there, i want the Canadian got. to pay for all the wrong doings that is has done to me and pay me compensation. I will not leave until i get that compensation.
A child supports the parents (be it son or daughter). This is tamil culture. Do you knwo that many only daughters donot get married in Tamil Nadu just for the fact that they need to support their parents.
I donot want to comment about other stuff of your post. Moderators maynot like that.
TK
Do you feel trapped by the cultural expectations? when in your life do you get to do what you want?
What department of Service Canada would you direct your protest to? Immigration? HRDC (now just called Service canada)..EI? Revenue Canada?
Have you taken any actions or contacted any advocacy groups that work with low income or immigrant rights? Have u written a formal letter to a minister or MP?
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