Why are we (Canada) the laughing stock of the world.


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-10-09 17:18:17

Why does it always first have to be us?
Why is it that we are praised for our health care (and the Canadian govt. / Immigration consultants) uses it as a pawn while immigrating) that we have a world class healthcare (and that extended family members of immigreants who are sponsered will get access to our world class healthcare) and that we are a DEVELOPED Nation.
But we are the first to be classified as a potential dangerous health place.
First it was SARS, then it was Mad Cow Disease, then it was Swine Flu (when even India declared us as a dangerous place), C-Deficile bacteria (affecting seniors and their death) and now we have the most dangerous H1N1 speading in our own great Mount Sinai.

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/717485--h1n1-outbreak-at-mount-sinai-hospital?bn=1

Dr. Barbara Yaffe, Toronto's associate medical officer of health, has confirmed an outbreak of H1N1 at Mount Sinai Hospital.

She also said there is an increase of absenteeism in about 40 schools in Toronto, 15 of which are known to have an increase in influenza activity.

"The number of cases in Toronto is increasing significantly," said Toronto chief medical officer David McKeown.

There have been 115 confirmed cases of H1N1 since the beginning of September; 68 of those were reported last week.


We are soon going to be banned from Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda etc.. soon.

It is time that we declared our health care system highly primitive and that most of our "so called" tax dollars are not going to actually improve the system but rather to some liberal / conservative friendly orgs. for little or no value produced.
And these people have the gall to restrict Indian doctors from practising/ getting a licence to practice in Canada as easy as it is for the same doctors to practice in the UK or the USA.

Peace by a PD


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cipherstrike   
Member since: Jun 09
Posts: 25
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-10-09 18:40:32

I think you might be... I dont think we are LOL !!!



JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-10-09 18:43:49

Swine has killed more than 300 people in India, not sure the count on unaccounted case but it is big deal here.
It is the media that is driving crazy.

Information is a double edged sword.


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ILOVENA   
Member since: Jan 09
Posts: 295
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-10-09 09:28:22

With due respect, Tamilkuravan should substantiate his allegations with undeniable proof before making such allegations:

@@ Quote " It is time that we declared our health care system highly primitive and that most of our \"so called\" tax dollars are not going to actually improve the system but rather to some liberal / conservative friendly orgs. for little or no value produced".

I would like you to show on this forum proof that our tax dollars are going to \"some liberal / conservative friendly orgs\" You have a right to rave and rant - but let us not bring this culture of making wild allegations here - we have had enough of that in India. If you do have proof that our tax dollars are filling the coffers of a political party, let us fight this with the proof that anyone would like to see.

@@ So you call this system primitive? Have you been to any Government owned and operated hospital in India? Perhaps you think only of \"corporate hospitals\" when you think of the health care system in India. There is large scale corruption in government hospitals - Some doctors won't take good care of their patients unless they are paid in private (even though they are on the payroll of the hospital) .

The pharmacist and store keeper don't stock many drugs, because they are in existence only on the records - patients are asked to purchase these drugs from the friendly pharmacy across the street. The list of goings-on could be endless!

A free eye camp was held in Nellore (AP) about a week back - Five patients went blind after the surgery. The Chief Minister blamed the \"contaminated intravenous glucose\" for this. He said no charges would be laid because that would \"demoralize the medical community\" So much for the health-care system in India, where a doctor can be negligent and won't have his license revoked or pay a fine for it!

As for why Indian doctors are not allowed to practice here without being re certified - there are many reasons - I can think of a couple.

1. These are barriers put up by the Ontario college of surgeons an physicians. The reasons may be political and the urge for self preservation. That is wrong fundamentally, but as a community, what have we done to address or fight this?

2. We come from a country where chief minister's daughter fails her entrance exam to a course in medicine, and a year later tops the university. This chief minister has a large family - and I guess you know who I am referring to.

In India, if you have the right connections, you could buy a degree, without ever going to school. Quacks practice as regular doctors and if you are from one of the privileged \"backward class\", you just need to pass with about 40 or 50 % marks to get a degree.

With all this going on, how can you expect the government to let Indian doctors practise without a re-certification? I don't know about you, but I'd be wary of meeting a doctor here who is not board certified.

You can argue that wrong things do happen here too. Agreed, but two wrongs don't make a right!

Lastly, Tamilkuravan - you just presented the issues here........ do you have a solution to how we can prevent the spread of H1N1, SARS or the mad cow disease?




web2000   
Member since: May 06
Posts: 849
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-10-09 10:17:08

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Why does it always first have to be us?
Why is it that we are praised for our health care (and the Canadian govt. / Immigration consultants) uses it as a pawn while immigrating) that we have a world class healthcare (and that extended family members of immigreants who are sponsered will get access to our world class healthcare) and that we are a DEVELOPED Nation.
But we are the first to be classified as a potential dangerous health place.
First it was SARS, then it was Mad Cow Disease, then it was Swine Flu (when even India declared us as a dangerous place), C-Deficile bacteria (affecting seniors and their death) and now we have the most dangerous H1N1 speading in our own great Mount Sinai.

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/newsfeatures/swineflu/article/717485--h1n1-outbreak-at-mount-sinai-hospital?bn=1

Dr. Barbara Yaffe, Toronto's associate medical officer of health, has confirmed an outbreak of H1N1 at Mount Sinai Hospital.

She also said there is an increase of absenteeism in about 40 schools in Toronto, 15 of which are known to have an increase in influenza activity.

"The number of cases in Toronto is increasing significantly," said Toronto chief medical officer David McKeown.

There have been 115 confirmed cases of H1N1 since the beginning of September; 68 of those were reported last week.


We are soon going to be banned from Somalia, Sudan, Rwanda etc.. soon.

It is time that we declared our health care system highly primitive and that most of our "so called" tax dollars are not going to actually improve the system but rather to some liberal / conservative friendly orgs. for little or no value produced.
And these people have the gall to restrict Indian doctors from practising/ getting a licence to practice in Canada as easy as it is for the same doctors to practice in the UK or the USA.

Peace by a PD



Finally, u admitted that Canada health care system is piece of sh...
U always used to say in most of ur posts that we have excellent health care system.

I am fully in favor of paying bride to get the work done rather than paying tax and don't getting any service.
Unfortunately, I cannot do anything here rather than getting frustrated.










proud_cancuk   
Member since: Oct 09
Posts: 25
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-10-09 10:28:58

Tamil kumran and web2000 if you hate this place so much then have the guts to give up your canadian citizenships and leave this so called " bad country". all you do is bash and complain about this place!! U r nothing but bunch of losers, you probably were before u came here and thats why u r a loser r here as well.
I AM A PROUND CANADIAN AND VIVE LA CANADA!!



web2000   
Member since: May 06
Posts: 849
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-10-09 10:34:33

Quote:
Originally posted by ILOVENA

As for why Indian doctors are not allowed to practice here without being re certified - there are many reasons - I can think of a couple.




That is not a problem but spending 7-8 years again just to get the certification is not justified. Foreign trained doctors should be put on quick training so that they can start their practice as we need doctors urgently. Even the genius from the institutes like IITs or AIIMS have to spend years to get certification here.

Approx 5,000,000 people in Canada don't have family doctors. I don't think that the foreign skilled doctors need extensive training to become just a physician (Anyway he has to prescribe only Tylenol or Advil).

Every time I go to Pharmacy, they take at least half an hour to get my prescription prepared (Such a long time just to get the tablets) and that never happened to me in India(No waiting time where the population is 70 times of Ontario)

Jai Hind










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