Religious groups plan to picket board over school’s Muslim prayer service


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puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 08:47:49

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As a secular person, it is clear to me that all religion must be kept out of schools for the well-being of our children and their future. There is simply no alternative. If we lose now, we are looking at ‘Lal-Masjid’ type situations in 5 years. So, what am I going to do about it?



It is the misinterpretation of facts that has led to such a hue and cry on this issue. First of all the school is not invloved in any religion. The school or TDSB is not promoting any religion or practice. It was a request from the students that was provided for. In case of lets say lords prayer and school organised christmas function, it is the school that is promoting such activity and so were not allowed. If on the other hand the students were to say that they want to hold a season for lords prayer everyday, then it is for the school to provide for an accomodation.

Perhaps you are not aware but in Rockford Public School, the jewish students have been given a portable to act as a synagogue. And i am sure if an hindu, sikh, jain, buddhist student wants an accomodation, it will be provided for.

Lal Masjid thing happened for different reasons, India has almost the same amount of muslims, how come we dont have lal masjids happening in India. On the other hand despite there being no religious prayer etc in schools in Punjab, we had Golden Temple !!!!



Rajagopal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 09:27:09

Mr. Puttoo,

Here’s a truth never spoken openly in this forum or in Parliament Hill or in The Whitehouse.

The ongoing issue has nothing to do with ‘religious accommodation’ or ‘separation of state and religion’ or ‘prayers at school ‘or even secularism.

It is all about Islam.
Islam scares the hell out of everyone.
For the rest of us 7.5 billion beings in this planet, Islam is our darkest fear and worst nightmare coming true.

This is the summary of the last 7 pages in this thread.

Kind regards,

Rajagopal.



dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 09:43:50

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Originally posted by puttoo


It seems the people invovled in the protest did not do their homework. If the TDSB "written policy" allows this prayer accomodation, then they should have condemed and raised their voice against the "written policy" of TDSB and challenged it in a court of law.




Agree.


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dimple2001   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 09:46:00

Quote:
Originally posted by Rajagopal

As a secular person, it is clear to me that all religion must be kept out of schools for the well-being of our children and their future.



Agree.


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puttoo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 10:06:31

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It is all about Islam.
Islam scares the hell out of everyone.
For the rest of us 7.5 billion beings in this planet, Islam is our darkest fear and worst nightmare coming true.



I do understand your point but you cannot let your fears set the agenda. If your starting position is that Islam is the problem, then let me tell you that you have lost the battle before you have even started it.

There are issues and problems which lead to islam but to paint the whole billion plus group with the same colour would be wrong and self defeating. Certainly there are issues that need to be highlighted and sorted out, if i may add with the active participation of members of this faith.

Keeping that in mind i feel this issue of prayer by muslim students is a wrong issue. As i said before, if there was an issue, then it should have been directed at the policy of religious accomodation. That way all religious groups would have said that the policy of accomodation amounts to getting religion into school environment so it requires change. Right now the position taken is that because muslims are praying, it will lead to toronto 18 or lal masjid. Hope you understand what i am trying to say.



Canadianraja   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 11:29:56

Quote:
Originally posted by Rajagopal

Mr. Puttoo,

Here’s a truth never spoken openly in this forum or in Parliament Hill or in The Whitehouse.

The ongoing issue has nothing to do with ‘religious accommodation’ or ‘separation of state and religion’ or ‘prayers at school ‘or even secularism.

It is all about Islam.
Islam scares the hell out of everyone.
For the rest of us 7.5 billion beings in this planet, Islam is our darkest fear and worst nightmare coming true.

This is the summary of the last 7 pages in this thread.

Kind regards,

Rajagopal.



+1



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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-07-11 13:28:33

CNN) - A small tray of vegetable samosas costs $35 at the Mughal Express restaurant. But one particular tray, sold to strict Hindu vegetarians, might end up costing the Edison, New Jersey, restaurant a whole lot more.

The Hindu customers said the restaurant served them meat samosas, harming them emotionally and spirituality. A state appellate court ruled Wednesday that they can sue for the cost of travel to India to purify their souls.

Two summers ago, Durgesh Gupta and Sharad Agrawal walked into the popular Mughal Express on Oak Tree Road, in the heart of Edison's Indian community, and ordered samosas. They were strict vegetarians, they said in making sure there was no meat in their order of the traditional Indian snack.

Gupta said a restaurant employee assured them that it did not make meat samosas, according to court documents. A half-hour later, the two men picked up a tray labeled "VEG samosas."

But after Gupta and his group of 16 people began eating the triangular deep-fried pastries, they grew concerned they were eating meat. When they went to return the uneaten samosas, the restaurant said it had made a mistake, court documents showed.

Yes, the vegetarians had consumed meat and believed they were complicit in inflicting death and injury to God's creatures.

They sued Mughal Express but a lower court deemed they did not have a case - until this week, when the appellate court reversed that decision.

What the 16 Hindus want is compensation for a trip to the Hindu holy town of Haridwar, India, where the Ganges begins its downward flow to the ocean. There, they want to take dips in the river and, by Hindu belief, cleanse their souls of sin.

And they want the restaurant to pay for it all.

K. Raja Bhattacharya, the lawyer for the vegetarian diners, and David Novack, an attorney representing the restaurant, both declined comment because the case is ongoing.

In 2002, McDonald's Corp. paid $10 million to Hindu, vegetarian and other groups in order to settle a lawsuit against the company for failing to disclose that beef flavoring was used in French fries.

The company began advertising the fries were vegetarian after they switched to vegetable oil to reduce cholesterol, but the fries contained small amounts of beef flavoring added at the processing plant.

But the New Jersey lawsuit may be more compelling by virtue of it being against an Indian establishment and one owned by a Hindu at that, said Suhag Shukla, legal council for the Hindu American Foundation.

"I think the fact that it was an Indian restaurant makes it a bit more compelling because the restaurant owners probably would have been more sensitive to being careful (about vegetarianism) and to not make that kind of mistake," she said.

But some Hindus felt the diners were taking things too far. They doubted whether there was any karmic debt associated with the consumption of meat.

Pradip Kothari, president of the Indo-American Cultural Society in Edison, suggested the diners could easily go to a temple to cleanse their souls.

Indian-Americans have much to be grateful for in America, he said, and the lawsuit takes advantage of a U.S. judicial system that has afforded them individual protections.

"I understand how they feel," Kothari said. "I myself am a Hindu. But this is hypocrisy of the law."

And of religion, he said. "If you are a true religious person, God teaches you to forgive."

He did not know the diners, he said, but they should be ashamed for bringing a bad name not just to Hindus but to the
Indian-American community.

As for Mughal Express, there were no non-vegetarian samosas on the online menu Thursday.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/21/hindu-diners-sue-indian-restaurant-for-selling-meat-samosas/?&hpt=hp_c2




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