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Posted on: 30-03-08 00:43:42
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Originally posted by HelloG
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
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Originally posted by HelloG
Also kabir once said
"nindak nede raakhiye,
aangan kuti banaye
bin sabun paani bina
nirmal kare subhaye"
Actually kabir das wrote
Nindak niyare(not nede, neare means paas me,I didn't know he was punj) rakhiye, Angan kuti chabay(chawaye),(not angan kuti Banaye)
don't just think about banaye, paye etc
If we can read you...then the protocol suggest that you should reciprocate and read the jist of the words instead of waving Banaye or chawaye or chabay.If i had read last two words I would have never understood the doha!!!!!
Also may I have the audacity to suggest that Please do not fill out forms or help any desi people if you only have to make fun of them.
Don't we have illetrates in India who move from states like BIHAR,MP etc to major metros in search of jobs and then take help of educated ones for various things like filling up ration card form and so many more things.
Do we make fun of them or shoo them away or try to speak in their accent to make them understand things and makethem feel a part of the community!!!
Well thats how I and people around me and I am sure most of my Kanedian friends see it!
I never met any Bihari working in delhi who complained or felt ashame to be called as bihari in delhi or anywhere else, but some Indian feel ashamed to be called as Indian in Kanedda .
when a bihari come to delhi with his peti people laugh on him but he just say wait for some year and see the IAS result, Bihari is not only known as labor madam look at the IAS result they are the most successful people in IAS/IPS/IFS exam not any other community in india yet they don't blame reservation nor they ever complained that there are more mosquito or caste problem in Bihar they proudly celebrate Chhat pooja in delhi or mumbai they never say human lives like animal in bihar.
world's first university was in Patliputra(it's Patan now), chadhakya, chandragupta,siddharath(started Buddhism) came from bihar who eventually define the bharta varsh yet punajabi who migrated from pakistan to delhi had hard time to accept bihari coming from bihar to delhi.
India who accepted Punjabi sindhi tibbati Chinese afgani in to india, puanjabi migrated all over the India,but they have problem if any other person migrate in to delhi.they can come from pakistan an live in punajbi bagh but if person coming from UP/Haryana want to live in delhi they have problem.
sadda Kanadda.
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
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Originally posted by HelloG
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
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Originally posted by HelloG
Also kabir once said
"nindak nede raakhiye,
aangan kuti banaye
bin sabun paani bina
nirmal kare subhaye"
Actually kabir das wrote
Nindak niyare(not nede, neare means paas me,I didn't know he was punj) rakhiye, Angan kuti chabay(chawaye),(not angan kuti Banaye)
If we can read you...then the protocol suggest that you should reciprocate and read the jist of the words instead of waving Banaye or chawaye or chabay.If i had read last two words I would have never understood the doha!!!!!
Also may I have the audacity to suggest that Please do not fill out forms or help any desi people if you only have to make fun of them.
Don't we have illetrates in India who move from states like BIHAR,MP etc to major metros in search of jobs and then take help of educated ones for various things like filling up ration card form and so many more things.
Do we make fun of them or shoo them away or try to speak in their accent to make them understand things and makethem feel a part of the community!!!
Well thats how I and people around me and I am sure most of my Kanedian friends see it!
I never met any Bihari working in delhi who complained or felt ashame to be called as bihari in delhi or anywhere else, but some Indian feel ashamed to be called as Indian in Kanedda .
when a bihari come to delhi with his peti people laugh on him but he just say wait for some year and see the IAS result, Bihari is not only known as labor madam look at the IAS result they are the most successful people in IAS/IPS/IFS exam not any other community in india yet they don't blame reservation nor they ever complained that there are more mosquito or caste problem in Bihar they proudly celebrate Chhat pooja in delhi or mumbai they never say human lives like animal in bihar.
world's first university was in Patliputra(it's Patan now), chadhakya, chandragupta,siddharath(started Buddhism) came from bihar who eventually define the bharta varsh yet punajabi who migrated from pakistan to delhi had hard time to accept bihari coming from bihar to delhi.
India who accepted Punjabi sindhi tibbati Chinese afgani in to india, puanjabi migrated all over the India,but they have problem if any other person migrate in to delhi.they can come from pakistan an live in punajbi bagh but if person coming from UP/Haryana want to live in delhi they have problem.
sadda Kanadda.
See how you are..why are you always on the lookout of ways to twist and turn and shabily manipulate words!
Now you have started Bihari Punjabi battle... Please don't even go there...we are already **---** with your India Vs Canada idiocity. Nothing constructive going on here.I don't know why I keep coming back here...I guess it is helping me in venting out of the way!...khana hajam ho jata hai.
heres few more Kabira just for you
1.
Maala To Kar Mein Phire, Jeebh Phire Mukh Mahin
Manua To Chahun Dish Phire, Yeh To Simran Nahin
Arthaat/It means
Kabir in this doha strongly condemns those faking to be religious and spiritualists. Yet at the slightest provocation they swear and curse, without any hesitation, with the same 'twisting' tongue.Such people are hypocrites and deluded, for their actions are only outwardly to show off or to keep up with the rituals out of sectarian and communal pressures.
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Maala Pherat Jug Bhaya, Mita Na Man Ka Pher
Kar Ka Manka Chhor De, Man Ka Manka Pher
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Kabir Maala Kaath Kee, Kahi Samjhave Tohi
Man Na Firave Aapna, Kaha Firave Mohi
Kabir asserts that mere rotation of the rosary is useless and futile with a wandering mind.
4.Here is a doha by Rahim:
Je Rahim uttam prakrati, ka kari sakat kusung
Chandan vish vyapat nahi, liptat rahat bhujang
Says Rahim, one who is of ineherently noble nature, will remain unaffected even when he associats with bad people. The sandalwood plant does not absorb poison when the snakes wind around it.
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Originally posted by jake3d
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Originally posted by Fido
These are your thoughts and you know what - I care half a cent about that .
Thanks for your advice but let me assure you its not needed.(though un invited of course)-- You can reserve it for your own good self . I think you are far more obsessed .
Glad to know the feeling is mutual. Although its half a cent more than I'd give for your melodramatic pseudo intellectualism littering the forum. So you can continue avoiding replying it makes no difference except to yourself.
I am not the one who brings up daughters bfs and basing lifes decisions on adult childrens sexual activities (imagined, projected and obsessed upon) in each and every post.
Its clearly an obsession...just look at your posts, I'm not the only one who has noticed.
If you look at my posts , you will find other points also - but you choose to highlight this ONLY this ~ speaks of your obsessive tendencies not mine . Or maybe you have daughter/s and you take this personal .
Tell you what - look at your own posts and the time you spend writing them.....and its easy to determine who is more obsessed.... I wonder if you have anything better to do.
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Fido.
Hello G ,
Shukr hai yeh thread barakaraar hai nahin to aapka haazma khaaab ho jaata ... 
Thanks also for sharing all these Kabir ka dohas .... they have with stood time and a pleasure to read .
On a slightly different note though ....
"How do we explain to 'Nadaan Dil' that we love our Motherland but we have taken 'Vidaaee' from her with a promise to return to her every once a while and never to forget her.(quite filmy eh!)
Do you mean that since we have moved here we have lost all rights to point out negativities of our homeland!!!!!!!!
We don't have to prove ourselves to anyone be it our status here or be it our patriotism!!! "
Its not vidayee ........ but shunning and deserting India for greener pastures which could have been avoided if there was a feeling of nationalism and patriotism .. dont you agree ?........ saab aapne kya kara india ke liye ..... kuch nahin .. jee wahaan bahut problems thee ... bijlee nahin aatee thee , paanee nahin aataa thaa .... humne to Canada ko apna liya ......... phir bhee dil hai Hindustaani !!!
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
Will children only learn culture/religion from parents or inside home.Isn't whole city's culture(infact whole country), school culture, their friend, culture in work place, TV have significant impact on them.
children spend significant amount of time in school and with friend.Isn't it be odd man out if they don't follow them.
I am not blaming anybody so please don't get offended.
What's your point? What's the problem here?
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Originally posted by Innocent_heart
I never met any Bihari working in delhi who complained or felt ashame to be called as bihari in delhi or anywhere else, but some Indian feel ashamed to be called as Indian in Kanedda .
world's first university was in Patliputra(it's Patan now), chadhakya, chandragupta,siddharath(started Buddhism) came from bihar who eventually define the bharta varsh yet punajabi who migrated from pakistan to delhi had hard time to accept bihari coming from bihar to delhi.
India who accepted Punjabi sindhi tibbati Chinese afgani in to india, puanjabi migrated all over the India,but they have problem if any other person migrate in to delhi.they can come from pakistan an live in punajbi bagh but if person coming from UP/Haryana want to live in delhi they have problem.
sadda Kanadda.
No one is ashmaed to be called an Indian on this forum !!!!! Though i am beggining to feel that way after reading your posts
. I had mentioned to you this before also, you seem to have a lot of contempt for you own countrymen. Has anyone touched a bihari in delhi .... on the contrary this is what happens in bihar http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2025/stories/20031219008801400.htmBihar has had a glorius past, but the present generation has nothing to show for it. Your own glorification of bihar is dated to 300 BC, that was 2300 years back !!!!!!!! what does Bihar have to show for last 60 years after independence. Punjab has been the bread bowl of India for a long time now, the punjabis are the backbone of Indian defence forces. So don't fingers at the Punjabi's, if Bihar had made half the contribution of Punjab, India would have been a better place still.
Infact they have made contribution to US and Canada also. The first Asian Amercian in US congress was a Punjabi ........ that was way back in 50's (1950 that is not 50 BC)
Just for the record .... I am not a Punjabi.
Puttoo, Jake, Viggy, HelloG
I'm amazed at your tenacity to provide menaningful responses to what amounts to me as nothing more than mental diahorrea.
Allow me to simplify so that you can make more productive use of your Saturdays next time. 
Take this analogy that I couldn't help but thinking about after hearing all the talk about mothers. Think of India as the Mom, Canadian immigration as marriage and Canada as the wife. Here is how some people's brains work.
Assumption
1. Mr X loves his Mom very much and is very close
Options in Mr X's universe (I know there are more, but its impossible to explain to Mr. X)
1. Never get married.
2. Get married but always keep telling the wife how much better his Mom was at everything.
3. Get married and forget and bad-mouth your Mom.
Option Mr X. chose
#2 (and if you're married, you know he's screwed! )
Option Mr X. thinks we chose
#3.
Now, you spend a lifetime trying to convince Mr X. that dude, the list of choices is far more here when you take a broader and more mature approach. But sorry, the universe is 3 choices.
Enjoy your Sundays!
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