Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:06:39

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Originally posted by puttoo Wrong figures .... it is 25% and growing .....http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/322/7286/575</font>


Sometimes statistics is made up with an intent to prove your point .... take 3300 desi Immigrants - ask them what country they are from and proclaim all Indians come to Canada .... :) ............ Please re read the comments in your article which follow......... you might gain some new insight for yourself and others. I am pasting them for convenience.

How valid is this study?
Baseless survey.
Grossly Misrepresented Data about India
Credible evidence lacking!
Good example of sampling bias!


The same goes for the doctor's link - the article is written by a a Resident Doctor but mind you 70% of docs private practice ---- check out their income please and also let me know how many doctors and IIT grads do you know who have migrated to Canada ?

\"As far as culture is concerned .... India is catching up fast ..... at least in the metro's pre-marital sex is very much prevelant ... dont worry in a few years India would catch-up with Canada. Then what are you left with .... your 17 year old sleeping with her bf in India and you sweating it out in 46C+ temperature under a rickety fan run by an inverter .... pretty picture :D\"


You intend to say that sexual freedom in India is currently or in near future will be at par with Canada ... right ?
Any reasonable findings to support this or just imagination ......... how much proportion of population do metros comprise in India . Even in Delhi a single DPS case become a scandal and in Canada such thing would not even catch attention... thats the level of difference in cultures .

And was it that rickety fan or the inverter because of which you shunned India and escaped ? Pretty picture eh :d

\"A doctor at age 26 after slogging for 6-7 years earns a measly Rs. 8000 per month ........ if he were to come to Canada and drive a taxi ....... he would make that much over a weekend\"

True - in fact that speaks of the mindset of the majority of Immigrants --- why bother when even being a cabbie / janitor / security man you can have an apartment and a car ........... what about professional achievement and satisfaction ......... being a doctor you could have saved many lives and probably given more value to your own life but you choose to become a cabbie in Canada ....

My q is - whats more important - our values and culture or a comfortable physical life ............ we can't have both because the social forces are acting on us and our children 24 hours a day and they are bound to change ..... as much as their mother tongue will.... in this generation or the next. You may have no problems with your teen daughters having pre marital sex but i do and I am sure I am not the only one ......... its a part of value system I have grown up with and intend to sustain.... not compromise ....... At least in India despite all the advents conservatism reigns in major proportions.


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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:13:11

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Originally posted by puttoo

Is that your understanding of the power problem in India?????? Then you are not aware of the problems in this sector ...... India is only utilizing 21% of its hydro resources ... these are figures from ministry of power, India ....

Comapre the number of people (Indians) who won nobel prize in india with people (indians) who won it outside india. If you want i can provide the figures





they can not make all the Dam in 60 year, thing take time. when you make one Dam you need to relocate 100 village to other place plus millions of dollar to build it.
these things take time



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:21:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Sometimes statistics is made up with an intent to prove your point



Sometime facts are ignored to prove points too.


Quote:
Originally posted by Fido
Any reasonable findings to support this or just imagination ......... how much proportion of population do metros comprise in India .


Again there are enough links provided. BTW: most immigrants who want to live the good life in India will go to the Metroes for a gated community.


Quote:

My q is - whats more important - our values and culture or a comfortable physical life ............ we can't have both because the social forces are acting on us and our children 24 hours a day and they are bound to change ..... as much as their mother tongue will.... in this generation or the next.



Your question has been answered. Many of us do not see a compromise like you do. Just because its a compromise for you does not mean it is so for others.

You would be wise to heed your own feelings and take necessary steps if you feel it is indeed too much of a conundrum for you to handle. Social pressures and changing lifestyles will follow you in any metro in India as many have already mentioned.

Realize that the inability to cope with it is your personal issue and not some established wider truth that everyone has to deal with.


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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:24:22

Quote:
Originally posted by puttoo

Even though you would fine doctors earning a lot of money in India, but the majority of dcotors dont have it that good. A doctor at age 26 after slogging for 6-7 years earns a measly Rs. 8000 per month ........ if he were to come to Canada and drive a taxi ....... he would make that much over a wekend

You have been out for long ..... read this from doctors http://mard-strike.blogspot.com/2006/03/misery-of-medicos-article.html





prostitute here earn 200- 300 CDN/Hour, highly qualified girl in India can't make it this kind of money.

Do you recommend all the girl from India should come here and do the same thing.

Is that the aim of life to earn just money??



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:28:29

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido
You may have no problems with your teen daughters having pre marital sex but i do and I am sure I am not the only one ......... its a part of value system I have grown up with and intend to sustain.... not compromise ....... At least in India despite all the advents conservatism reigns in major proportions.



What about your sons? What is this about daughters only.

You obsess about it too much. Its unhealthy. You cannot control it. Whatever your idea about conservatism in India. All data says otherwise. It sounds like you have never been part of the upper class society in India that you aspire to in your musing about living as part of those communities.

You can of course lock away your kid in some remote area and throw away the keys until such time as you see fit.


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jake3d   
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:31:17

Quote:
Originally posted by Innocent_heart

Is that the aim of life to earn just money??



What do you think it is? Can you tell us what it should be?

Or do you think its a personal choice?


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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-03-08 16:39:18

Quote:
Originally posted by jake3d

Quote:
Originally posted by Innocent_heart

Is that the aim of life to earn just money??



What do you think it is? Can you tell us what it should be?

Or do you think its a personal choice?




you tell me because you said doc in india can earn more money as cabbie driver here. so all the girl or lady doc should me prostitute here.

why only girl from india even girl here also if they opt to be prostitute they will earn more money than any other profession.


The answer of your question is -- how your are earning the Money is more important than how much you are earning otherwise "paise to randi bhi kama leti hai".




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