puttoo   
Member since: Jan 05
Posts: 1096
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 11:18:10

Biggest problem in India is of BSP ... bijli sadak pani ..... whatever maybe you position or status in India ... once that "bijli"goes of in 45 C plus temp. .... you become a zero .... a generator can run a fan but that is no consolation in that much heat ......
Now the question of pani ... i have lived in delhi for most part of my life .... the national capital .... i dont know of any area which get 24 / 7 water supply.
As for sadak ... whatever car you drive ... it breaks your heat when you get those dents in your car .... infact i have rarely found a car in delhi which does not have a dent or a scratch ......
again any amount of money you have these problems persist ..... these are day to day problems



Maharaj   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 1721
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 11:40:29

I don't know how many times do we need to beat this dead horse. But lets go one more time -

* No mater what metro you live, min 3 Hrs a day is gone driving and bitching on road. Its no good here either, but at least it is not that bad.
* No Job is 9 to 5, specially in IT (I am talking IT, not call centre). You spend at least 12 Hrs a day out of Home on weekday (If there is something called weekend). You like to sleep 7 Hrs. Left with 5 Hrs. 3 Hrs at Night & 2 Hrs in Morning.
- Where do you have time for your Spouse and Kids?
* Where is space for my kids to play outside? They cant even play Gully Cricket anymore, as Cars have lined up everywhere.
* My friend came to Toronto from Mumbai with her JrKG going daughter. School said, kid needs to come back in a month or she'll have to go through new admision (read donation).

Besides, you know, her Immigrant is Foreign National. But back home Immigrant is 'Other Province' National. I am not just talking about Mumbai. No mater which city you go, everybody treats those 'Other Province' Nationals poorly.


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hchheda   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 2245
Location: Woodbridge

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 11:44:13

I am not a India beater or a Canada 'fan' either - but one thing sure bothers me is that most complaints relating to life in India/Canada revolve around having maids, servants, drivers etc...somehow we are still not out of that complex to have some one else do our job for us...purely on money power. Also, if that is the employment many people are getting in India, surely we need to rethink about progress for nation and the citizens.

For those who are not aware, in Mumbai, they already have unions of maids, servants and drivers and very soon they are coming up with weekely day offs and paid benefits. Add to that the atleast 1 story per day per city where a wealthy person is duped/killed/taken to the cleaners by one of thier servants, maids or driver etc...

In short I dont feel these previleges will be around for long in India.

Hiren



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 17:34:20

With all due respect I d like to learn more on the following :

Culture : Okay there are boy / girl relationships in India but whats the proportion for either that or live in u/m relationships - ?? My assumption 10% in India and >60% here ...... Would you mind if your 16 year old daughter sleeps with her bf or you deem that can be avoided - if yes how to escape the weft and weave of culture here.

Same goes towards drinking and talking back to parents - I was taken aback when I recently attended a driver s course with teens here and most of them were sitting with their feet on the table with their books - no wonder why here a majority of them go wayward whereas in India the emphasis is on career & studies.

Aren't maids / drivers / ironing man needed comforts if so are better roads & safety?

Yes it takes time to reach office in Delhi but so it does in Toronto or Dubai ?

Someone said whether doctors have a comparable life in India - doctors are one of the most well paid lots in India (sans taxes) and would be the least interested immigrants . Medical services in India are superb due to abundance of intellect - even in an average city you can find the best of specialists - how much are the waiting times here for knee surgeries - 4 years I heard yesterday on the news .

What about culture getting compromised upon after 1-2 generations . Can that be avoided or is it acceptable ?

Imagine what life one can lead in Rs 80 K or more pm in India --- yes if you work as an average worker like a cook / cabbie you have more benefits here .

Sm1 mentioned - children cant play in India --- think again ......... how easy is out life in India and here its so prohibitory due to weather conditions --- for 3 months you are packed indoors .

Vegetarianism comes as second nature in India with so many varieties - here I find the varieties of vegetables available to be quite less. Eating out is so cheap relatively in India .

Celebrating festivals is so prevalent and intrinsic of any culture - the air changes in India around Diwali and Holi as it changes here on Xmas and Halloween here.

You can be constantly in touch with your parents and siblings and their families - how much our parents need us in their old age -- isn't that important ?

Power backup and 24 hrs waters are available facilities in newer upscale colonies . An ac car + driver is your cheap answer for traffic blues.

Yes you cant change the main stream systems but you can surely use them for your advantage -- cheap metro / railways for example .


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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 21:25:14

Quote:
Originally posted by puttoo





I left India in 2000 and i was paying rent of Rs. 10,000 for a two bedroom apartment ... so i dont know what quality of life you are talking about in a city like delhi in Rs. 15,000 !!!!!!

Tell me honestly if you are a qualified doctor in India and you are a qualified doctor in Canada, where will you get a better quality of life .....

As for daughters living with boyfriends ..... not that i have a problem with that ..... but why do you think of the worst ... my wife has cousins who were born here .... both brother & sister are doctors and their respective spouses are doctors too ..... they are living happy lives .... as for living with BF ... it is prevelant in India also (though not to that large an extent) and in coming year will catch up with Canada ... there goes your argument about this problem also.



Honest Answer is - Doctor consider as GOD in India, they are the one of most respected people in the country untill they are not like Kideny king, no wonder why Dr Amit kumar choose Canada.I normally get surpise when I hear doctor in UK are eating food in langar but prefer to stay in UK what kind of quality of life you are talking for doctors?

None of the doctor has to eat in Langar in India not even nurse has to do this in India.

what you want respect or better road in the cost of eating in langar??? And in India if you are good doc they are highly paid in private sector.

Regarding living with bf, how many girl get pregnant in India before 16 year of her age out of one billion people, may be 1%,But here none of girl are virgin may be after 13 year of age and the ratio here is 99%.
how many living to gether relationship you have seen out of 1 billion people.
dont compare 1% verses 99%.

India has 5000 year old culture people there will never adopt the culture like Canada/europe or whole North america, yes there is small percentage who can sell their value and principle for money but that is not new, those people always existed during Ramayan and Mahabharat time as well.




morning_rain   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 1920
Location: British Columbia

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 17-03-08 23:39:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Innocent_heart

For Qualified people the quality of life can not be high in Canada/USA until unless you have fraud degree.................

..... but in India I nver cooked my food, Never clean my house and washed my cloths never ever drove my Car.

...How many second generation Indian are successful in USA though millions of India living here.

children future is one of the crap justification.ask the parents how they feel when their daughter start living with their BF without marriage, then go and ask same parents was this career you wanted for you children???



First: You have the right to love and honor your country (ie India) however its obvious you are bitter because of your experiences, however by saying that only those with fraud degrees are enjoying high quality of life is actually Insulting your fellow immigrants who have found ways to exist and prosper . Do all these successful or settled Immigrants here have fraud degrees??

Second: Drop your snob mentality. There is NOTHING wrong in doing your own housework, or cooking.

Third: I havent done a study myself but many of us second generations are doing very well and in fact a study was done a while ago which showed that second generation or children of immigrant families earn equally to those who have been here for many generations. I

Last: I have cousins who live in Chandigardh that partied harder and had more 'free' lives than those of us who grew up here in Canada. You dont get it but its giving their children the ability to CHOOSE their own life path that people come here for. A person can do and be what they want to here. Whether they are male or female. If they choose to live alone or whatever. Its personal and its not possible to generalize. Cohabitation is not a 'career' btw.

It happens also in India.

try not to be so narrow minded.


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Innocent_heart   
Member since: Mar 08
Posts: 88
Location: Ottawa

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-03-08 00:17:43

thanks god atleast you people are not soldier otherwise you could have said we are not giving our life for India as road here sucks we will not fight for Kargil but we will fight in Iraq/Afganistan behalf of USA/Canda,because USA and Canada offer more quality of life.


thanks god there are still some parents who feel proud when their children die for India other wise how could India had survived if we only have parents who have escaped from India for better quality of life of their children.

No offence but the truth is - Changing the passport is like changing mother. If anyone is comfortable with changing Mother for the shake of better road condition its personal choice but for the god shake don't abuse India because for some people its not just a country it mother, Motherland.

I wont be surprise if you guys stop praying Ram/krishna or other Hindu god as they born in India.no matter how fancy road you can built here you can not build Banaras/Haridwar/brindavan/vaishnavdevi/tirupati, here.

No matter how clean is Ottawa River but soul can only get "Moksha" when the "Asthi' goes to GANGA River

Other way it's good for India that people like you guys don't live there, no wonder why there is lots of anti Indian group get funding from canada from xIndian itself.

Jai Hind
oooooopssssss I should say O' My Canada(O' My god Canada)
Fingure crossed:D




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