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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-04 11:51:48

CPM,
we are talking about 2 phases of an immigrants journey (though they are related).
1) Before you land: This is where one has to do the research and decide on the gameplan. The points you have listed are valid especially at this stage and I fully agree with them.
2) Once you are here: You are a salesman/woman and the product you have to sell is yourself. The attitude is an important part of this package. This is no time to doubt oneself and its time to put all those negative thoughts aside...go after what you want and rest when you get it.

I personally had none of the prerequisites that you mentioned
"such as suitability of that particular person to particular job, relevant experience etc".
Like a majority of the ppl on this board I flip-flopped between doubting myself and cursing this country quite a bit. I had to change that before I could manage to land the job I wanted. I believe its my change of attitude that helped me finding my current job. However, like the rest of us, I realise I am probably viewing everything through the narrow prism of my experiences.

Of course, whatever you do, there are no guarantees...be it success or failure. Either way, hopefully we deal with it smiling.


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Chor_Per_Mor   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-04 14:28:56

Well Jake
You did not come to this country from India directly, did you?
and how much money and overseas expereience you had when you landed?

A person coming from India generally already finds himself in hot waters as he has left his job, pretty much used most of money he had in buying air tickets and paying for immigration and other purchases. What is left is sucked so fast within 2-4 weeks of landing here that ground seems to be shifting beneath the feet. On top of it he calculates everything at conversion rate of 30 bucks to one $ because thats what it is costing him truly. So within 2 weeks he makes a beeline to labour jobs and ends up wit those for long time.

Attitude is very important but not everything.
Right person at right time at right place

What I was trying to point out here to other struggling folks was that some occupations are in demand and some people do get jobs with in days of landing. However one should not just race to conclusions but should explore a bit deeper just as in this case ask the person what EXACTLY he used to do and what kind of job he found and EXACTLY how.

I dont think attitude in this case even matters, that would have mattered when one fails to find a job in one year despite trying very hard but still refusing to die down. Babu on the hand has written that he HAD received good feedback to his letter written to prospective employers from India.


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-04 15:23:07

Quote:
Orginally posted by Chor_Per_Mor

Well Jake
You did not come to this country from India directly, did you?
and how much money and overseas expereience you had when you landed?



Directly from India bombay.
7000 bucks in my pocket.
No overseas experience
No experience with high-end tools they had here
No french
Extremely competitive field....maybe 6-7/200 visible minorities(forget about first gen immigrants) in my office
Lots of dreams :D


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Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-04 15:57:45

I agree with Jake and also with CPM to certain exent.

Unless it is luck, it is always the attitude which makes the difference betwwen success and failures. The salesman analogy of Jake is really good ...i deal with sales men all the tim e on my projects ...if the salesguy has even one cent of self doubt it shows on his face right away...he may not know it but those in front of him can make out.

Before deciding to move to Canada it is ok to be skeptical and negative to evaluate every aspect of the move carefully with the worst case scenario in mind .
Once the decision is made to move ..it is critical at this stage to shed those thoughts before landing and become a strong sales person for oneself.

That is the difference between those who contact a list of of employers and come back with a job and those who keep trying with no success...its time to change the way we think.

Never underestimate yourself.

"We will be ....what we think we are worth"




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SUDHISH   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 169
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 07-05-04 17:02:11

Congrats.

Desibabu... So are you in for the meeting on 8th May 2004?
:cheers:


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jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-05-04 10:46:21

as an addendum a story about what happened after I landed:

A friend in TO was looking for a job in the same field(arrived a year before I did)...like me he had no success either. So he went to a career counseller who adviced him to pursue this interest in the niche industry we are in, as a hobby. Instead of pursuing it as a fulltime career. In other words, she said that chances of him getting a job in the industry are almost nil. So this friend took the counsellers advice and passed on the advice to me too. Ofcourse, I disregarded it.

Fast forward to 3-4 yrs later. I was in the job in the industry(took me 2 yrs and a lot of risk/struggle/labor jobs etc). The friend was laid off from his job in TO (in an unrelated field) and I was able to get him back into the field in my company in Montreal.

We both have purchased houses(my friends house is bigger than mine too) in Montreal and are settled here at well paying jobs. Would not be possible if I had given up.

p.s: I am writing for those who have already landed here and are disheartened by their job search.
If you are in India or elsewhere please read the contents of the whole site.
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Mishtar India   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 668
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-05-04 12:50:03

Quote:
Orginally posted by jake3d

p.s: I am writing for those who have already landed here and are disheartened by their job search.
:)



Jake you nailed it my friend
i have similar experience to share ...the reason i am here in my present position is because someone somewhere told me to hang on to my job search...i had given up all hopes and was one week away from returning to india , when this person told me to give it one more shot ...and i did ...for the next 4 days and nights i did not leave the side of computer,phone and fax ...and lo and behold i got an offer, this was 5 years back....and rest is a long story and now i moved to Toronto.
I sometimes wonder if instead encouragement that person had just sympathised with me and just suggested me to move on ...i would have been in a different place today.

What i want to convey to all fellow immigrants is : the moment you feel that its time to give up on hopes, just hangin there for a little longer ...your breakthrough may be just around the corner.

Never give up on what you are looking for... you will slowly but surely find it.

Goodluck to all .


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