sguk   
Member since: Mar 09
Posts: 327
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-07-09 23:47:26

So the implication is that ....

people who can't screw the system are jealous of those who can?




>Again jealousy will be there at all levels. Following examples are :
1. People who are in India are jealous of familes migrating to Canada
2. People who pay health tax but who donot have the need to go to the hospital are jealous of people who get a heart triple by pass surgery Free
3. People on EI are jealous of people on welfare
4. people at work are jealous of people on Welfare..
5. People funder under ontario skills devlopment are jealous of people under second career (B'cos OSD cap is $28 K and SC cap is $ 28K for tution + unlimited living allowance / childcare/ gas charge / food allowance / parking / family benefits etc...)
6. Sc's are jealous of Bharamins (for their culture, Skin colour, Beauty of their females.).
7. Bharamins are jealous of SC's (b'cos of their quota).

and the list could go on....

Peace by TK



tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-09 00:28:24

Quote:
Originally posted by sgukSo the implication is that ....
people who can't screw the system are jealous of those who can?


You did not get the point.
The truth is that there are a series of people who want you to get the funding for the course.
The list that I know is the following :
1. Insitute owners of institutes want to charge the govt. $ 15,000 for a $9,000 course if paid by cash or $ 10,500 course paid by credit card.
2. The govt. who wants to approve right, left and center so that they can show to the people that they sent these many people for training and hence put an end to the recession.
3. The resume coaching preparers who want to coach you fancy ideas (when there are no jobs) to get money for that from the govt.
4. The person who wants to summerize your weakness so that he can get paid by the govt.
5. The person who writes a report to the govt. asking them to approve funds for the individual so that he can be paid by the govt.
6. and then at last is the honest individual who came to Canada 7 years ago and slogged for the employer taking bare min. wages, who left his happiness, pleace and joy but struggled 12 hours a day, 7 days a week on his job. the person who was fired for talking against racism / non compliance to ESA 2000. This person was forced by the 5 people listed above to change his resume, and take a course to change his profession so that the 5 can be profited. the sixth person (me) thinks that MAY BE if I take the course, I may be able to find a better job.

Hope your now understand. Sometimes, you are forced to go with the flow , market situations.

Peace by TK


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pranavshah77   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 92
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-09 02:33:01

HY TK

I went through all your 17 pages forum to understand the matter. first of all congratulation that you fight with your situation and come out with something good for your future.

I want to apply for my wife for this HRDC skill development training. I want more information regards to this matter.some of my information as follow

My wife was on maternity on march 2006. after that she worked only around 6 month as parttime telemarketer from sep 2007 to apr 2008. Now we went to VPI for apply her training update for back to work as my son now 3.5 year old and we can take care easily.

My wife having background of B.SC chemistry and diploma Medical Lab technician certificate from india. She wants to do study as dental assistant or medical lab technician here right now.VPI case manager accept his file and said that she is eligible for training and given bunch of reserch document to submit.

now my question is I am working full time monthly approx income is 2500$ with child benefit is 200$. My wife did not work from last 1 and 1/2 year. what should i do to get enogh money from HRDC as tution fees and living cost?

My one fried was saying me that i have enough earning to run my monthly expence so they will give you only tution fees .

IF i showed more expence than they might ask how was you doing before?

how i showed daycare cost?

How i present my file to HRDC for get tution cost + some of living cost too?
( I recently invest 14000$ to my spousal RRSP, does it any impact to her?)
Do i need to take all of my money from my bank?
pl reply




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Blue_Peafowl   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 1351
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-09 07:46:23

Hi pranavshah77

You have ask good question bcoz i am in same boat as u....

Looking forward to TK's opinion since he has recently gone through all this...




NOTE: Guys instead of getting mad on TK , why don't u use your expertise to help other CD's ...


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tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-07-09 09:15:11

Quote:
Originally posted by pranavshah77
now my question is I am working full time monthly approx income is 2500$ with child benefit is 200$. My wife did not work from last 1 and 1/2 year. what should i do to get enogh money from HRDC as tution fees and living cost?


Depends on the area that you are in, VPI and the MTCU person approving the course. It depends on how you present your budget and what your expenses are. VPI is the best person to advice you as they know from previous experience as to exactly what you will get. Most of the time they are usually right.
Quote:

My one fried was saying me that i have enough earning to run my monthly expence so they will give you only tution fees .


Yes. Looks like that is the case,
Quote:

IF i showed more expence than they might ask how was you doing before?


Your VPI person will guide you in that. Note that Ontario skills development will fund upgrading your EXISTING skills only and not new skills. It is up to you to show that your Dental hygenist course is a upgrade of what you have learnt or what your have experience in.
Quote:

how i showed daycare cost?


You need to get a quotation from a daycare and attach. If your child is already in daycare, then may be your can provide bills. It is then the choice of MTCU to approve you for daycare or not. all depends on your budget and how you talk when your MTCU councellor calls you on the phone and asks why he should give you the daycare costs
Quote:

How i present my file to HRDC for get tution cost + some of living cost too?
( I recently invest 14000$ to my spousal RRSP, does it any impact to her?)
Do i need to take all of my money from my bank?
pl reply


Your VPI counsellor will advise you better as they know all the tricks and tips.

Note :
1. if you are in mississauga, then try to take the course in Toronto. Then they have to pay you for 2 bus monthly buspasses ($180 a month value)/ or give you gas milage at $ 0.15 a km. If they approve you for car, then you can ask for parking @ $ 8 a day.

All the very best.

Peace by TK




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pranavshah77   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 92
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-09 00:43:06

HY TK

Thanks for your quick reply,

IN daycare i do not want to put my kid in registered daycare. in my neightbourhood there are some desi who is doing babysitting. I would like to put my kids with them( you know it saves time and also they provide vegetarian food as we eat everyday also cheaper than registered daycare, so we can save some money from this daycare cost)

is it ok if i show computersied print receipt and fax to MTCU every week and also show expence in my incometax return? Also that baby sitter will also show income in them incometax return file.


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-08-09 08:56:19

Quote:
Originally posted by gopalpai

sorry to hear about your loss of job, don't get depressed it is not end of the world. A lession for you to be polite to everyone around you especially during your job period, you are just like you are in school. you can't throw tantrums.you should be professional thro and thro.

First and foremost, remember you are in foreign country and you are second class citizen. This is canada and candian have more rights as you have more rights in India if you are Indian.Secondly you are employed by your employers that means if you are working 8 hours for them, then they have every right to ask you to do any job. You should never say no. accept the job given and if it is not completed then you go and explain the work completed and ask for the extra time for the remaining work to be completed.

Remember if you immediate boss gives you responsibiltiies, he is also answerable to his superiors. One should have the tendency to switch on and off which means, once you step into office, you forget home and outside world and sincerely do your work. As lord Krishna says, do your karma sincerely and honestly and leave the rest to me and once you step into your home, you forget your office.

Now, first and foremost, you go and apologise to your superiors and put in an apologise letter and ask for one more chance to prove yourself in job and promise them such type of behaviour will never recur. secondly if they don't agree request them very very politely to give good references and try for another job. (be psotive you will get another job) and please behave yourself and don't throw tantrums in jobs. never repeat same mistake twice.



Smelling of colonial mentality ............ tell you what ... you will be a 2nd class citizen till you consider your self as one .......... Have you ever been shouted at by a Canadian and did you shout back ............. do it next time and you would not feel as a 2nd class citizen !!!


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