atsz   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-02-09 22:52:29

Hey,

You should qualify for EI. Try it and you will definately get it.You may be surprised.

Cheers



Fido   
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Posts: 5286
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-09 07:38:06

Had the reason been 'resigned' , would a person still be entitled to EI benefits ?


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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-09 09:05:58

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Had the reason been 'resigned' , would a person still be entitled to EI benefits ?


In some cases yes.
cases like :
1. you are harrassed and hence you are forced to quit.
2. your employer asks you to do illegal things and you quit
etc...
More can be found in the EI book.

if you resign on your own whim and look for EI, The EI rules prohibit you from getting benefits under the EI

it even has a funny clause that if you resign on your own accord "on a chance that you will get another job soon" you stil will be able to claim EI benefits.

Peace by TK


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-09 19:40:05

Thanks . Professionally I had been taught that termination is the last thing you should have as it creates bad history for prospective jobs ..... and generally as in your case as well , employers offer one to resign .......... though it appears justifiable not to resign when you are not at fault even when termination is impeding .......... but I really wonder if termination would create a bad record ?


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sville   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-09 20:09:18

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido
Thanks . Professionally I had been taught that termination is the last thing you should have as it creates bad history for prospective jobs ..... and generally as in your case as well , employers offer one to resign .......... though it appears justifiable not to resign when you are not at fault even when termination is impeding .......... but I really wonder if termination would create a bad record ?



Whether one is made to resign or terminated, the bottom line is that for some reason that person is not fit for that company. Neither one of these two is bad. It's just the combination that's bad.
And you should not hide this from your future job search process. You can, but should not hide this. Most of the time the layoff is due to either financial/budget reason, change in company business line or merge/takeover. Neither of these are under an individual's control. So what's the point in hiding? Be honest and disclose it. A real manager will understand as layoffs are nothing new to any business. But mention it only if you are asked direct and specific questions regarding these issues.
Keep in mind, if those issues are uncovered after the interview process, the result could be bad.

If the layoff is due to performance reasons (or behavior, or any soft skill issues), which in my views is <2%, then most of the time you are made aware of that issue well in advance. Or atleast given a hint. Anyone at that level should get the signals. In such cases layoff is like "We have given you enough time and opportunities and now we give up!"



tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-02-09 21:06:33

Quote:
Originally posted by Fido

Thanks . Professionally I had been taught that termination is the last thing you should have as it creates bad history for prospective jobs ..... and generally as in your case as well , employers offer one to resign .......... though it appears justifiable not to resign when you are not at fault even when termination is impeding .......... but I really wonder if termination would create a bad record ?


Fido,
Who will know if you are fired, laid off or if your employer terminated you b'cos he wanted to save money (not to give you release salary, employment letter, refferal, portfolio of your works etc...).
In your interviews, you will be asked why you left the previous company and I always say a generic thing (like recession, I am still working in the same old company and I am looking to climb up the ladder as my position in my old company is saturated etc...). Most employers are always jealous / competetors of the previous employer and hence donot cross check. When going through agencies, I always give references to close friends who give a good feedback and normally lie that they were my managers.
In short, no one cares why you are looking for employment in good times. They give you a job. In recession times, no one cares even if you have a good qualifications. you donot get a job.
In my past employment, I have always found that once I offer to resign, the employer always gets angry that I am submitting my resignation that no one ever offers reference letters / accprts my resignation.
hope this helps.

Peace by TK


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blorean   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-02-09 00:23:46

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan
When going through agencies, I always give references to close friends who give a good feedback and normally lie that they were my managers.
Peace by TK



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