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sanjeevm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 12:22:56

YOU MIGHT 'NOT' BE DESI IF YOU LIKE THE FOLLOWING STORY AND DO NOT FEEL LIKE DOING A 'NAKED JOOTA PARADE IN A CHOWK' FOR SUCH PEOPLE AND SUCH SOCIETY.
BTW, Welcome to Canada, the land of opportunities for making your kids' future (and did any one say culture too???) bright and prosperous.

Mother danced as child died
22-year-old pleads guilty to manslaughter in girl's death
Left unfed 2-year-old alone in crib for weekend of partying


NICK PRON
COURTS BUREAU

A 22-year-old single mother who danced the weekend away, then watched movies at a friend's house, has pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, who was left at home alone.

Rescue crews found the tiny, lifeless body of Adrianna Dasilva lying face-down in her crib in a room that was "sweltering hot" at about 35C and reeked of vomit and cat urine, a court heard yesterday.

The diaper rash on Adrianna's body was so severe, prosecutor David Wright told the court, it was the equivalent of a second-degree burn.

Detectives estimated that the child, known among her relatives for her "non-stop smile," had been abandoned by her mother, Clara Dasilva, for about 33 hours at the Biggin Court apartment, in the Eglinton Ave. E. and Victoria Park area.

An autopsy showed she died of dehydration. Emergency crews found her empty bottle on the floor near the crib.

Dasilva sat expressionless in court next to her lawyer, Joseph Wilkinson, as Wright said Dasilva at first told detectives she had left her daughter with a babysitter named Kelly.

Detectives later learned "there was no Kelly," Wright said. "She was a fabrication."

The child's father, Mark Yetman, sat in the gallery clutching a framed photograph of his daughter, sobbing through much of the hearing in the Superior Court of Justice.

"I would rather she plead not guilty, try to fight the case in court, lose and then get a tougher sentence in the end," he said in a later interview.

A sentencing hearing will be held Jan. 17. Under the Criminal Code, a person can be imprisoned for life on a manslaughter conviction, but sentences are typically far less.

Yetman, 27, said he and Dasilva had not wanted a child when they first met. But after Adrianna was born in July, 2000, Yetman, a roofer, said he was "in love" with the baby, who was born three months premature.

There was no custody dispute when the couple split up two years later, he said. Dasilva got the baby because, Yetman said, "I thought that she was an excellent mother. But I guess I was wrong. I had absolutely no clue at all that she was leaving the child alone like that."

For the first 18 months of the child's life, it appeared she was being looked after, the court heard. She was getting regular medical care and had a babysitter, court was told.

But there were signs of trouble in early 2002. A babysitter noticed the severe diaper rash, Wright said.

And the last time Adrianna was seen by the family doctor was March 1, seven months before her death, according to the agreed statement of facts.

The babysitter told Dasilva about 10 times that the child "was not eating enough and was too skinny," Wright said.

The last time the babysitter saw the child was Thursday, Sept. 5, 2002, just before the weekend that Dasilva, then heavily in debt and being hounded by collection agencies, went out for a weekend of salsa dancing, Wright said.

On Friday night, she left Adrianna alone about seven hours while she danced the evening away with a male friend, first at the El Rancho on College St. until closing time, then across the street at the Plaza Flamingo, which stayed open an hour later.

Adrianna was left for nearly four hours Saturday night, when Dasilva returned to the El Rancho, the prosecutor said.

On Sunday morning, she went to work at 8:30 a.m., leaving Adrianna alone until returning home around 7:30 p.m.

A short time later, she went to the Left Bank, on Queen St. W., for a night of salsa dancing, asking friends to come out and party in some of 32 cellphone calls she made that evening.

After closing time, she told her two male companions her purse and keys were stolen and she couldn't get into her apartment.

So the trio went out for pizza, then back to the apartment of one of the men, where they watched movies such as Winnie the Pooh, Wright said.

Dasilva didn't go to work that Monday and eventually went home about 6 p.m., got the landlord to let her in and then found the body of her child in the crib, left alone all that time.

She then took off her dancing pants, put on a pair of track pants and called 911

PS: Please tell me if you are a Desi or not? Also please don't remind me all those things like 'Ek machhli saare jal ko ganda karti hai ......and all because if there are very few 'Machhliyan' in the 'Jal' then what?


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crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 12:47:52

Quote:
Orginally posted by sanjeevm

YOU MIGHT 'NOT' BE DESI IF YOU LIKE THE FOLLOWING STORY AND DO NOT FEEL LIKE DOING A 'NAKED JOOTA PARADE IN A CHOWK' FOR SUCH PEOPLE AND SUCH SOCIETY.
BTW, Welcome to Canada, the land of opportunities for making your kids' future (and did any one say culture too???) bright and prosperous.

PS: Please tell me if you are a Desi or not? Also please don't remind me all those things like 'Ek machhli saare jal ko ganda karti hai ......and all because if there are very few 'Machhliyan' in the 'Jal' then what?



Revisit some of your comments above, then read something about female infanticide in India at the 2 links attached:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0225/george.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1829892.stm



worship   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 90
Location: North York

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 15:09:29

Hello Mr. Sanjeev,

This is heartbreaking, yet what are you trying to prove by this story????? should we cancel our applications?

And yes there are hopes in the applicants mind that life may become better than what we have here.......by questioning the motives and iking with sarcasm you are definitely not helping would be immigrants.....weren't there such stories as referances for you, when you landed in Canada!!!!!??????????

A word of caution or advice would go a long way than posting such shattering anecdotes...Advice that it is always good to have a balanced approach or to be prepared for a total culture change and how best to keep a semblence of mind and deal with the change specially so that children value the sanskars and not end up like Dasilva is expected from seniors like you but trying to shake the foundation of change, knowing well that change does not come easy is not fair.

Frankly I am sick and angry of reading the negative posts.......I think that majority of mankind has yet to find UTOPIA and has been wisened enough not to expect miracles on this Earth, and as one man's food can be other man's poison so to My UTOPIA could be your HELL .......and yet I have really to come across anyone...DESI or NOT..... to be so inhuman as to like the story you have posted.......

Do you know of the female infanticide in Gujarat??????or for that matter the whole of India?In Gujarat it is known as DUDH PITI.........they dunk the unwanted girl child in a pot of milk and kill her as girls are a pain to the family specially the for PATRIARCHS of society who do not know that the blessed X chromosome that gives birth to the girl child comes from them!!!!! Yet it is happening in the land where the SAMVEDAS and the RIGVEDAS and the Ramayan and Mahabharat have been written.........One can buy all the things but not Khandaniyat and that is where culture comes from not from changing lifestyles.

sincere regards,

Worship


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sanjeevm   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 497
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 18:45:23

then read something about female infanticide in India
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To crenshaw:
First of all, the links you have provided are telling very old stories like 1994-95-96 and 2002, secondly the story is not about 'female infanticide' at all (was it mentioned anywhere in the post??). So please revisit the whole story and think about that.
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To worship:
should we cancel our applications?
Na bhaiyya na......maine aisa kab kaha? Jis laddo ko har saal lakhon-karoron log khaate hain, jise humne bhi khaya, us ke swad se aap kyon door rahein?
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And yes there are hopes in the applicants mind that life may become better than what we have here

Yes, sure. Life in Canada is far better than what you might be living in India. Afterall, third world country and developed country main kuchh to farak hoga!
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weren't there such stories as referances for you, when you landed in Canada!!!!!??????????

Yes, there were such stories as references for us also but it was our choice. We opted for that and we never said that we came here for our kids' future.
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A word of caution or advice would go a long way than posting such shattering anecdotes...Advice that it is always good to have a balanced approach or to be prepared for a total culture change and how best to keep a semblence of mind and deal with the change specially so that children value the sanskars and not end up like Dasilva is expected from seniors like you but trying to shake the foundation of change, knowing well that change does not come easy is not fair.

Sir, I have never advised any body to come to Canada unprepared rather never advised anybody 'not to come to Canada' because I know, if you have decided, YOU HAVE DECIDED. Even I, myself did not change my decision though I was advised by many people. The purpose was/is not to stop anybody for coming but to come prepared for the change and if you think that being a senior Canadian Desi, I should encourage people to come here unprepared and hide the facts, then you are right. I do apologize for such posts. In my next post, I will somehow manage to show some beautiful pictures of Niagara Fall, CN Tower, Skydome etc. Afterall, all immigrants have the 'opportunities' waiting for them on 20 Bay Street, 12th Floor, Downtown Toronto M3E 2B2, there are four trees on your right hand side when you exit from Pearson International Airport, terminal number 1. On those trees there are appointment letters hanging for all the immigrants, tree #1 is for managers, General managers and other office staff, tree #2 is for Engineers and Doctors, tree #3 is for Accountants only and tree # 4 is for 'others'. On the left hand side, there is a spot called 'Welcome Spot' where everyday Monday to Friday, 8.30 am to 4.30 pm, all local South Asian politicians including Mr. Malhi and Ruby Dhalla line up along with Mr. Paul Martin to Welcome new immigrants and hand over offer letters in Fortune 100 companies to First Fifty 'skilled workers' as an 'Early Bird Welcome token'.
So when you are booking your tickets, keep the arrival day and time in your mind. Its very very important.
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Frankly I am sick and angry of reading the negative posts.....

Once again sorry. the contents of next post are already been promised. Please check the above para.
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Do you know of the female infanticide in Gujarat??????or for that matter the whole of India?In Gujarat it is known as DUDH PITI.........they dunk the unwanted girl child in a pot of milk and kill her as girls are a pain to the family specially the for PATRIARCHS of society who do not know that the blessed X chromosome that gives birth to the girl child comes from them!!!!! Yet it is happening in the land where the SAMVEDAS and the RIGVEDAS and the Ramayan and Mahabharat have been written.........One can buy all the things but not Khandaniyat and that is where culture comes from not from changing lifestyles.

Are we really talking about the female infanticide????







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Sanjeev Manocha, MBA
Real Estate Sales Representative
Accredited Buyer Representative (ABR)

Re/Max West Realty Inc, Brokerage
96, Rexdale Blvd., Toronto

Mobile: 416-843-7600
Office: 416-745-2300
http://www.manocharealty.com" rel="nofollow">LINK



Kap   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 299
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 19:41:15

Quote:
Orginally posted by sanjeevm
para.

20 Bay Street, 12th Floor, Downtown Toronto M3E 2B2




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Any reason to mentioned 20 Bay street, 12th floor ?

Are you working there?

Please reply.


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crenshaw   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 914
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-09-04 23:08:26

Quote:
Orginally posted by sanjeevm
To crenshaw:
First of all, the links you have provided are telling very old stories like 1994-95-96 and 2002, secondly the story is not about 'female infanticide' at all (was it mentioned anywhere in the post??). So please revisit the whole story and think about that.



The first link is a research paper written in 1997. The second link is a BBC article from 2002. The incident that you have quoted in your post also occurred in 2002.

You insinuated that Canada has a 'social' problem because you cited one instance of a mother whose child died due to negligence.

Going by the same yardstick, would you say that India has a severe social problem because female infanticide is widespread in certain states, per the 2 articles quoted above. Remember the death of the child in Canada happened due to negligence, and the mother will be prosecuted and go to jail for it. The deaths of children through female infanticide in India, are nothing but premeditated murder - and a majority of them will go unpunished.

Think again, who's got the social problem?



worship   
Member since: May 04
Posts: 90
Location: North York

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 30-09-04 03:32:17

Mr. Sanjeev,

Good, you maintained your sarcasm.....I am sure I can get better photographs from ny research on Canada or from my friends. Pls. do not waste your precious time on my or other new or would be immigrants.

We r talking about society and the machlis in the Jal.....term it as negligence or infanticide or any other label you can think of.....problems are there everywhere.

I apologise that I expected too much from a senior Canadian desi like you to guide others.Even your post could have been taken in the right vein but somehow sarcasm makes a mockery of so serious an issue....here the issues are too many......a young mother, an unwanted pregnency, loneliness, no support system etc. and definitely the main thing being her background and her upbringing........but lets leave it at that for I don't think you will take my post in the right spirit.....seems that for you it is either 'iis paar ya oos paar' extremism never works nor is respected.

I am not a' Sir 'with a penchant for using a girl as my avtaar . :D

sincere regards,

Worship


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