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JSethi   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 88
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-10-04 15:58:31

Thanks for pointing that out gapodi.....


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Cheers,
JSethi


dubaidesie   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 19
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-10-04 21:07:45

I pasted a letter from the TS in my last post. Here is today's reply to it.




One act no proof of inhumanity




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`Anti-Semitism' meaningless term


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Letter, Oct. 18.

I find it astounding that Rick Patrick would point to the horrific act of one soldier (who is under investigation and will no doubt be punished) to illustrate that Israelis (read Jews) are inhumane.

This soldier's act (the shooting of a Palestinian girl) is contemptible and shameful to Israelis, unlike the comptemptible and shameful acts of Palestinian suicide bombers, who target innocent civilians — men, women and especially children, and who are celebrated as national heroes and martyrs.

They have summer camps named after them, they have songs written about them, their families receive financial compensation.

Just who is inhumane?


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Reba Goldman, Richmond Hill


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Religion, hmph! People get het up all over it- totally useless. The above exchange is reminiscent of exchanges on this site at times.

Dubaidesie





dubaidesie   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 19
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-10-04 21:12:29

Here is more:



Glaring example of intolerance




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`Anti-Semitism' meaningless term


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Letter, Oct. 18.

Rick Patrick's letter is a glaring example not only of religious intolerance, but also of the ignorance that sadly perpetuates anti-Semitism.

Patrick's admonition about anti-Semitism that "it's a meaningless term, applied to anyone who says anything critical of Jews in any context," is patently absurd. Patrick's suggestion that being critical of Israeli policy toward Palestinians inevitably leads to charges of anti-Semitism leaves one open-mouthed with disbelief. Israeli political policy is always open to legitimate discussion and vigorous debate.

Pointing the finger at Jews and proclaiming that our community defends itself by throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism is just plain unacceptable.


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Joel Richler, Chair,

Canadian Jewish Congress, Ontario Region, Toronto


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Religion just leads to altercations over nothing.

Dubaidesie



JSethi   
Member since: Apr 04
Posts: 88
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-04 03:56:37

The world is going crazy....
God where are you !!!!!!!!!!


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JSethi


canin   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 15
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-04 12:21:41

Quote:
Orginally posted by JSethi

Guyz,
More people die in the name of religion than of anything else.




Since civilization started humans realized that living in a society is a necessety.
Gradually these societies started getting recognized in given names with head members to make rules for them.
Those days education was not that important than earnings to live. That started creating chaos among these socities. Societies with better natural gifts were benefited and flurshing more than others.
Some matured and intalctuals (according to their times) came forward to teach other members of their society. These teachings then started getting converted into belief and then to the culture.
To save these various culturs, these intelectuals gave them name of religion. The religion with more believers started growing faster and their socities started growing bigger.
More bigger the society, more stronger the religion, now is.
And the intelectuals at that time now are called either GOD or SAINTS.
(Again NOT to hurt anybody's feelings. These are just my thinkings. And I am a true believer in GOD)



BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-04 12:33:13

I don't think the intent of the orignal poster was to invoke specific religions, so it'd be nice if we can refrain from that.

I think one of the major purposes of creating religoin would be to get people to conform and obey. If you go tell someone "Do not kill another or do not steal" as an individual, it does not mean much. However if you present it in the context of a divine plan, it carries much more weight. Especially when it comes with the "hell in afterlife" warning.

In that context, I agree with Canin that religion was created by some very smart people to advance the cause of civilization and build socieites that conform to certain norms.

The down side is that it left a lot of room for abuse. And I don't think anybody needs any examples of that. But then again, that's just the nature of the universe, ever drenched in conflict. Everything that can be used can be abused.


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dubaidesie   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 19
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-04 14:47:48

Quote:
Orginally posted by BlueLobster

I don't think the intent of the orignal poster was to invoke specific religions, so it'd be nice if we can refrain from that.

I think one of the major purposes of creating religoin would be to get people to conform and obey. If you go tell someone "Do not kill another or do not steal" as an individual, it does not mean much. However if you present it in the context of a divine plan, it carries much more weight. Especially when it comes with the "hell in afterlife" warning.

In that context, I agree with Canin that religion was created by some very smart people to advance the cause of civilization and build socieites that conform to certain norms.

The down side is that it left a lot of room for abuse. And I don't think anybody needs any examples of that. But then again, that's just the nature of the universe, ever drenched in conflict. Everything that can be used can be abused.



Hmmm! I wonder where not eating pork, not consuming alcohol, women subjugated to wearing veils, men allowed to have 4 wives, observing fast during ramadan, doing namas 5 times a day, etc fits into the grand picture of religion.
" Not to kill and not to steal" yes, that is why you will find practically zero of this happening in Saudi and UAE, but the rest?
Dubaidesie.




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