For those who wonder if govt officials care about the plight of immigrants or not and whether such issues are discussed in the House of Commons, here is a site for you.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/debates/004_2004-10-07/han004_1755-E.htm

Do percentages matter? There is enough aboslute numbers of discontented immigrants to warrant even politicians taking up a stance for them.

Desimisri

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Among men 39,700 immigrants had occupations prior to coming to Canada but this increased to 43,800 after coming to Canada. Among women 22,300 had occupations prior to coming to Canada, after coming to Canada this increased to 28,300. Any thoughts on this?

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Chandresh

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In my experience of dealing in foreign exchange, many a times I have seen that some figures when released by concerned authorities intially give a boost to a currency (say USD), and the same news when disected in next half an hour, becomes a negetive news for that currency.

Similarly, the figures reproduced by you above had made me wonder initially, because we were discussing unavailability of jobs, and such a figure would initially indicate that more people got jobs after coming to Canada than they did before, and it was a good news. However, after going a bit deeper into the same news and trying to analyse it, I figured it was more a case of need to go into a job rather than being able to find more jobs. It had happened in my own case - my wife, though an educated professional, never had a regular job as such. She did work sometimes out of interest and to fulfil a hobby. However, when we moved to Canada, she HAD to look for a job to get some income in the family since I could not find a job, or the income was not enough. Now whether each spouse should work or not is a value judgement and I will refrain from commenting on that, the news indicates that a person with my crentials, who always was able to earn a good and decent living, was forced to send his wife into the labour force on reaching Canada - something he did not want at that time - later may be, but not at that time when all of us felt her need to be at home and look after growing up children in a new environment.

I might be sidelined from the topic, but I thought the reason is related to the figures being quoted, and those are my thoughts on it.

Chandresh

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For those who are hung up on percentages:

Here is another site:

http://www.cbc.ca/paidtobepoor/immigrants.html

70.3 % of new immigrants find it difficult to enter the labour market! Note the word "labour" And then read on.

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Relevant, Chandresh. Thought about that. Makes sense that the number increased for women. Just wondering why the number increased for men. Were all of these cases (about 4,100) where the wife was the principal applicant, the husband did not have an occupation prior to coming to Canada (?) and got one after coming to Canada?

Would be interesting to analyze this!

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For those who are hung up on percentages:

Here is another site:

http://www.cbc.ca/paidtobepoor/immigrants.html

70.3 % of new immigrants find it difficult to enter the labour market! Note the word "labour" And then read on.

Desimisri

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I tried to, and have come up with some thoughts on that too - which might or might not be relevant or true. This could be a combination of various factors - a minor one being what you have pointed out (wife being the principal or only bread earner - I have that in my own family today!!!), as well as fresh students, or tradesman running their own family businesses who came here on family migration ( I know a couple), and yes, people like two of our family friends who were retired in India, but came here on family migration and have started working to meet ends meet. Could be some others too.

And believe it or not........I myself was first time unemployed when I thought and applied for Canadian migration - only because I did not want to return to India from Singapore due to lack of employment.

Chandresh

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