Canada - a rip-off country !!!
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Originally posted by sumjo
Exactly!!
Besides, as a tax payer of this country, if I feel there's a flaw(s) in the system, I have every right to point it out and protest, without being asked "why I am here in the first place" and "to go somewhere else if I don’t like it here..........."
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Originally posted by Iceberg
Absolutely. You have the right words. But first you have to fight and convince a section of people who in the first place do not think there is a problem. This thread itself is evident of that fact.
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Originally posted by spaceman
Living anywhere depends upon personal choice, if Canada has some drawbacks then lets all get together and figure out how to solve that.
Couldn’t agree more with you…….
I really laugh at people on this forum who suggest other people to move elsewhere, just because they think this country has offered THEM a lot & its great. I think those people consider themselves dictator of this country ordering people to leave this country just for reason of raising their voices against injustice. If the same voices were of Italians or of Whites, they might have joined them but since the voices are of desi’s, they want to show their superiority in the community.
I am sure when recently the car prices were questioned with comparing the Canadian dollar with American dollar exchange rate, these same people might have joined all other community people to show their disapproval. But when some desi’s are voicing out for some other injustice (price of eggs for example), they would tell them to leave the country & try somewhere else.
Please think over it again. If you can afford a particular price for a so called, common essential things in life, that does not mean that everybody can afford it. So please if someone is raising a issue with practical proofs comparing it with other nations, don’t disapprove it with scornful comments. Keep paying/accustoming for it if you like, but don’t argue with people fighting for the justice over the flaws.
I also think that Canada is a great great country, but then I also agree with the post of SPACEMAN saying that we need to stand & voice together to resolve the flaws to make this country even greater.
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i..........rock........!!!!!
More than affordbality, its the unjustified price gouging that's in question. Even if I can afford to pay a inflated price, why should I, that's the question! Just because this is Canada..............
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"Please think over it again. If you can afford a particular price for a so called, common essential things in life, that does not mean that everybody can afford it. ">>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Originally posted by irock
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Originally posted by sumjo
Exactly!!
Besides, as a tax payer of this country, if I feel there's a flaw(s) in the system, I have every right to point it out and protest, without being asked "why I am here in the first place" and "to go somewhere else if I don’t like it here..........."
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Originally posted by Iceberg
Absolutely. You have the right words. But first you have to fight and convince a section of people who in the first place do not think there is a problem. This thread itself is evident of that fact.
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Originally posted by spaceman
Living anywhere depends upon personal choice, if Canada has some drawbacks then lets all get together and figure out how to solve that.
Couldn’t agree more with you…….
I really laugh at people on this forum who suggest other people to move elsewhere, just because they think this country has offered THEM a lot & its great. I think those people consider themselves dictator of this country ordering people to leave this country just for reason of raising their voices against injustice. If the same voices were of Italians or of Whites, they might have joined them but since the voices are of desi’s, they want to show their superiority in the community.
I am sure when recently the car prices were questioned with comparing the Canadian dollar with American dollar exchange rate, these same people might have joined all other community people to show their disapproval. But when some desi’s are voicing out for some other injustice (price of eggs for example), they would tell them to leave the country & try somewhere else.
Please think over it again. If you can afford a particular price for a so called, common essential things in life, that does not mean that everybody can afford it. So please if someone is raising a issue with practical proofs comparing it with other nations, don’t disapprove it with scornful comments. Keep paying/accustoming for it if you like, but don’t argue with people fighting for the justice over the flaws.
I also think that Canada is a great great country, but then I also agree with the post of SPACEMAN saying that we need to stand & voice together to resolve the flaws to make this country even greater.
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sumjo
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Originally posted by irock
If the same voices were of Italians or of Whites, they might have joined them but since the voices are of desi’s, they want to show their superiority in the community.
Is there any shroud of evidence here for you to arrive at such conclusions about me (for example) irock? So you just need a post where everyone agrees that Canada sucks because you believe that is fact? Aren't you being a little hypocritical? Why do you have to play a race card when it is absolutely not necessary? What superiority am I showing by saying "hey it ain't so bad in Canada when compared to the problems in US but if that's your Utopia, I think you should go there"? Could you please elaborate?
My fellow CDs here have taken a lot of shots at me here just because I have said in my opinion things aren't that bad...but I have refrained from giving it back on a personal level while I know I can.
Someone here was talking about revolution. Pfff...storm in a tea cup this one isn't it?
If you are doing this to make Canada better, by all means take more action. Hold a small rally in front of City Hall. Block cars from entering gas stations. Voice your concerns in townhall meetings. Write letters to the editor of local newspapers. Make the public take notice. Gather some momentum. Get people from other communities on board. Start a website...take polls, present them to City Hall. But I think I know better...I think you know better. You don't have to prove anything to me. Prove something to yourself is all I ask.
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Posted on: 22-09-08 15:26:56
Location: carl sagan's universe
Posted on: 22-09-08 15:26:56
since this thread started with the price of gas, be forewarned.
see the lnk below:.
http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080922.woilprices0922/GIStory/
If the usual trend follows we are in for a 25 cent jump in gas price. maybe even more, but def in that ball park.
Gas cos ka chandi hai (Ok 'son hai' - akhir kaar oil black gold bhi to hai.)
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Originally posted by mynameisraj
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Originally posted by irock
If the same voices were of Italians or of Whites, they might have joined them but since the voices are of desi’s, they want to show their superiority in the community.
Is there any shroud of evidence here for you to arrive at such conclusions about me (for example) irock? So you just need a post where everyone agrees that Canada sucks because you believe that is fact? Aren't you being a little hypocritical? Why do you have to play a race card when it is absolutely not necessary? What superiority am I showing by saying "hey it ain't so bad in Canada when compared to the problems in US but if that's your Utopia, I think you should go there"? Could you please elaborate?
My fellow CDs here have taken a lot of shots at me here just because I have said in my opinion things aren't that bad...but I have refrained from giving it back on a personal level while I know I can.
Someone here was talking about revolution. Pfff...storm in a tea cup this one isn't it?
If you are doing this to make Canada better, by all means take more action. Hold a small rally in front of City Hall. Block cars from entering gas stations. Voice your concerns in townhall meetings. Write letters to the editor of local newspapers. Make the public take notice. Gather some momentum. Get people from other communities on board. Start a website...take polls, present them to City Hall. But I think I know better...I think you know better. You don't have to prove anything to me. Prove something to yourself is all I ask.
I am not professing feelings or taking any shots at you Raj. My post was a general statement against this thing which I noticed in lots of other threads. If you think that Canada ain’t that bad when compared to US, why don’t you write some of the facts where it is so (when compared to paying price of commodities, which I think is the main subject of this thread). By doing that may be the people on the other side may believe you & change their opinion. Please don’t refrain from giving back all the positive point when compared to commodity prices discussion which can lead to healthy & informative thread. This is a discussion forum & let’s stick to that, instead of telling people to relocate. Relocating is not the only option when there are flaws encountered in the system, that’s the only thing I am stressing on.
FYI, I did wrote my comments on many newspapers & even entered into lots of polls for showing my disapproval upon gas prices. And might even do more, where & whenever I get a chance to make this great country even greater.
I don’t want to block cars from entering gas stations, as I know there are people in those cars, who have to reach to their workplace to support their family or to pick up their kids from babysitting after work. These might be precisely the reasons why the entrepreneurs & system in Canada are not scared of ripping us. So what do you suggest? shouldn’t we discuss these problem at all & continue living our life…….
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i..........rock........!!!!!
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Location: God's own country
Posted on: 22-09-08 16:37:46
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 22-09-08 16:37:46
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Originally posted by mynameisraj
If you are doing this to make Canada better, by all means take more action. Hold a small rally in front of City Hall. Block cars from entering gas stations. Voice your concerns in townhall meetings. Write letters to the editor of local newspapers. Make the public take notice. Gather some momentum. Get people from other communities on board. Start a website...take polls, present them to City Hall. But I think I know better...I think you know better. You don't have to prove anything to me. Prove something to yourself is all I ask.
Sir,
Atleast one of you idea (like blocking Cars from entering Gas stations) could land people in jail.
By far the most important thing that is required is to Educate the Desi's and other people who are gouged about them being gouged with facts such as what has been put up in this thread. I am doing this for a number of months / years. I have seen a number of people in CD as well as other social networking sites who donot say that we are being gouged even after I have posted relavant facts.
As far as possible, I will shop at USA (big ticket items, Cloths, shoes etc..). Earlier I had written to a number of hospitals regarding their poor service for out tax dollars , the high waiting time, inefficeient doctors / nurses, Hospital staff who get tensed up when you ask them for help etc.... but till date have not even receive one reply from the hospital PRO. So much for out tax dollars/ health tax which pay to run these hospitals. My most recent bad experience was when we went to a hospital and after check up were to register for the next week's check up date. The secretary of the hospital gave us an arbbitary time and we politely asked since we were working, if we could get a more conveneint time like begining of the day or the end of the day. Immediately she put a scowl and told us rudely that we canot wish for our own conveneient timings though we did not force her or even give our own specific time. I am sure that the reaction was b'cos we were brown skinned immigrants and she thought that we were refugees trying to milk Canada's welfare. So sometimes, the mentality of people is like that and is very very hard to try them to see reality, esp. if you are an immigrants.
Hope this sheds some better light.
Peace
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Too bad that you have not figured out the 'problem' as yet. Maybe soon you will!
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Originally posted by jake3d
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Originally posted by Iceberg
Absolutely. You have the right words. But first you have to fight and convince a section of people who in the first place do not think there is a problem. This thread itself is evident of that fact.
If you are indeed looking to 'fight and convince a section of people who in the first place do not think there is a problem' then we have the makings of a loooong thread especially since 'the Problem' is not clearly defined. In the absence of such, every one and their pet monkey is going to chime in about their pet peeves
For some the problem is gas prices, milk prices, tire prices, 'cloth' prices.
Then we have OSAP loans, EI loans and socialist systems.
Then we have people clamor for nationalisation (which is contrary to the above position).
For yet others it is lack of equal opportunity.
For others it may be the 'culture'
Theres the hot favorite 'taxes'
etc. etc
Even within the people who are complaining there is no unanimity about if some of the above should be included in 'the problem'.
We may as well start chasing our own shadows. Hey that can be part of 'the problem' - My shadow is missing during Canadian winters
Anyway all the best with 'the problem'.
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